Dear colleagues,
As Neil's original e-mail and following commentaries suggest, there are in my mind two major reasons why it is not easy to point to a single grand theory of international environmental politics: -Originally, GEP developed under the shadow of IPE. In the general IR literature, even O. Young's pioneering work has more often than not been appended to IPE, rather than identified as a field of its own, with distinctive theoretical tools; -Secondly, GEP seems to be a much more democratic and diverse theoretical field, rather than one being dominated by a hegemonic theory and several replies to that theory. Hence, there is a lot of good, theoretically informed work, but less effort to build support for a grand theory. It seems that like environmental politics, GEP as a field grew from the bottom up, and less from the top down, which is a intellectual advantage rather than a disadvantage. Because of this less hierarchical structure, the study of GEP uncovered important phenomenon such as the role of transnational advocacy networks, transnational science networks, market-driven voluntary regulations, forms of multi-level governance, etcs. before other fields.

That said, I also think that it may be time now as Marc suggests to try and move collectively to an overarching framework, or several such frameworks. It would be particularly useful to start asking how IR theories have been applied to GEP, where they have been sufficient or deficient, and what has GEP as a field added to the theorizing of international relations and global politics? A panel at ISA, followed by one or several at APSA sounds like a good approach. I have also been under the impression that GEP is much more prominent as a field as ISA, and less so at APSA, again partly because it is inevitably appended to IPE. Maybe that could change some day as well.

Liliana

At 11:40 AM 11/28/2005, Ken Conca wrote:
Neil has provoked a very interesting discussion. My silence on this was
driven less by disinterest than by the stage of the (North American)
calendar, as we enter that desperate time of the semester....Perhaps
this could be continued in a future panel at the International Studies
Association or some other forum?

I wonder about the quest for a general theory, eco-political or
otherwise. On the one hand, the limitations of mainstream IR theory for
understanding eco-political dynamics have been probed by many scholars.
(For example, my just-published book, Governing Water, begins with a
critique of regime theory, essentially arguing that it holds constant
certain configurations of knowledge, authority, and territoriality that
are better treated as variables when it comes to thinking about the
possible or existing institutional forms of environmental governance.)

That said, there is a great deal of insight in regime theory that I
would not want to simply toss off. The problem is not that it is "wrong"
but that it offers a particularistic explanation-plus-blueprint for
international institutional design. I would argue that neither the
explanation nor the blueprint can be generalized across types of
ecological problems, types of power and authority relations, or for that
matter stages of global capitalist development. For an increasingly wide
swath of socio-ecological controversies, knowledge can't be stabilized
to the necessary degree for regime formation, putatively 'domestic'
territory won't sit still for governance, and state-as-authority is
increasingly problematic as a way to legitimize power. Who knows, there
might have been a brief post-Cold War window when such stabilizations
were possible around certain issues, but not now...And if so, we reach
the limits of regime approach, either as a 'general' theory or as an
effective political strategy. (As an aside, although I don't wish to put
words in their mouths, I don't read the best contributions to regime
theory as having claimed to offer such a general theory).

One could deconstruct other conceptual points of departure (e.g.,
Hardin's tragedy of the commons, global civil society, political economy
approaches) in analogous fashion. Studying environmental politics has
made me sensitive to complexity, uncertainty, contingency, authority
struggles, the importance of soft/socio-cultural as well as
formal/legal-rational institutions, and the importance of contention and
conflict as well as cooperation in generating outcomes. Under those
circumstances, it seems much easier to specify what isn't going to
happen than of what will, of what's not attainable rather than of what
is. In my view there is a great deal of very creative work being done
in/on global environmental politics. But can it be stitched together
into general theory? Toward the end of his life, Kafka was reportedly
asked in an interview why his work seemed to suggest hopelessness.
"Certainly there is hope," he is said to have replied. "But not for
us."

Ken Conca


>>> "Neil E Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2005 10:06:14 AM >>>
Michael:

When I was in your position several years ago, trying to build a
theoretical framework for my doctoral research on international
climate
change policy, I used ideas from several domestic and international
policy theories. In the domestic realm, for example, I used Kingdon (I
liked the sense of serendipity embedded in his windows of opportunity)
and in the international I used aspects of then current theory
including
ideas on regimes. After all, IEP is usually thought of in terms of the
regimes that are created. I no longer think that this approach is
useful. A more general theory (or perhaps paradigm) of global
international politics would better integrate and connect the islands
of
information created through past research and generate more
interesting
research questions for future research.

More recently, I have found a way of thinking about environmental
politics that I believe, when fully developed, will generate a
defendable (and testable) general theory of both domestic and
international politics on environmental matters, which is ultimately
what is needed. Despite the good work of Young especially, I think
that
deficiencies in the fundamental premises of current IR theory make it
an
unlikely source useful ideas about international environmental
politics.
Ecological theory suitably modified, however, is, in my mind, an
essential part of a useful general theory of IEP.

Good luck with the paper and with your studies.

Thank you for your support,

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Schoon, Michael L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 PM
To: Neil E Harrison
Subject: RE: Theory in International Environmental Politics



Neil,



My name is Michael Schoon, a soon-to-be doctoral candidate studying
under Elinor Ostrom at Indiana University.  I am in a jointly
administered Ph.D. program split between IU's School of Public and
Environmental Affairs and the School of Political Science.  My foci in
the programs are environmental policy and IR, respectively.



I have been struggling with the issues that you mention below and
agree
with you that there is currently a disconnect between IR and IEP, but
I'm not sure that the fault lies with IEP.  International relations
seems to be excessively focused on conflict, both as a field of study
and a method of discourse between scholars.  But I am encouraged by
the
work of people like Oran Young and others who are beginning to bridge
the gap between IR and IEP.



With regards to the dearth of general theories for the IEP field, I
agree and have taken the approach of drawing on either more specific
theories (regime theory as appropriate) or more general political
science theory (Lasswell's policy sciences for instance) or ecological
theory (resilience, vulnerability, and adaptation).



While this might not provide much in the way of suggestions going
forward, I'm sure that it is one of many responses noting that you are
far from alone.  I am working with a couple other list members on a
paper regarding the challenges of trying to apply IR theory to
international environmental issues.  If you'd like, I'll let you know
how they turn out.



Best regards,



Michael Schoon



Workshop in Political Theory and Policy Analysis

Indiana University

513 N. Park St.

Bloomington, IN  47405

USA



(812) 855-0441 (w)

(812) 345-6965 (m)



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil E
Harrison
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:23 PM
To: Maria Ivanova
Cc: Geped list (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Theory in International Environmental Politics



Maria:



The paucity of responses to my request for sources of work on a
general

theory in international environmental politics, to my mind speaks

volumes about the immaturity and incoherence of the (sub-)field. I

received two responses in addition to yours, one from Kate O'Neill and

one from Pan Chasek (Pam did not yet answer the question in my
response

to her), both of which I think went to the whole list. For those who
may

have missed them, I summarize their suggestions here.



Kate O'Neill is working on a manuscript on this topic and suggested

three principal sources of discussion on this theory in IEP:



Vogler, J. and M. F. Imber, Eds. (1996). The Environment and

International Relations. London, Routledge.



Redclift, M. and T. Benton, Eds. (1994). Social Theory and the Global

Environment. London, Routledge.



Paterson, M. (2001). Understanding Global Environmental Politics:

Domination, Accumulation, Resistance. Basingstoke, Palgrave.



Pam suggested the 4th edition of "Global Environmental Politics" and

Regina S. Axelrod, David L. Downie and Norman J. Vig, "The Global

Environment: Institutions, Law and Policy," 2nd Ed.



You have suggested "Paths to a Green World" by Dauvergne and Clapp.



Many other texts may have something to contribute like Eric Laferriere

and Peter Stoett, "International Relations Theory and Ecological

Thought: Towards a Synthesis" and even Ronnie Lipschutz "Global

Environmental Politics: Power, Perspectives, and Practice" but I see a

huge need for some theory building to guide the where and how we dig
for

knowledge on international environmental politics. I have a chapter in

Eric Laferriere and Peter Stoett (eds), "Nature and International

Relations: Theory and Applications" (forthcoming from UBC Press) that

sketches one way to approach a general theory of IEP and other
chapters

talk to the matter.



With respect to your comment that you have to go to the IR literature
to

deduce theories of success or failure in international environmental

politics, I think that you cannot get there from here. In my view,

orthodox IR theories are generally inapplicable to the subject matter
of

IEP. I and several colleagues argue in "Complexity in World Politics"

(in press at SUNY) that common IR theories are inappropriate to the

study of world politics.



Thanks for your interest. It seems to me that there is a need for a

collective effort among the small number of us who may be interested
in

developing a general theory (from ontology to method) of IEP,



Cheers,





Neil





-----Original Message-----

From: Maria Ivanova [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:54 AM

To: Neil E Harrison

Subject: RE: Theory in International Environmental Politics





Dear Neil,



I wanted to follow up on your earlier email and suggest Paths to a
Green

World by Dauvergne and Clapp. It concentrates more on the political

economic

aspect - trade and environment, investment and environment, etc - but

could

be a good tool. Pam Chasek's book also covers some theoretical ground

and I

would be intersted in knowing how she replied to your question
regarding

the

existence of a coherent theory statement.



I am myself working on identifying the key theories explaining success

and

failure in global environmental governance but with little success.

Mostly,

I have to deduce from the IR literature. If you have any suggestions,
I

would greatly appreciate it.



Thank you very much,

maria



Maria Ivanova

Department of Government

The College of William & Mary

Williamsburg, VA 23187

Phone: +1-757-221-2039

Mobile: +1-203-606-4640

Fax: +1-775-908-9340

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.wm.edu/government



Director, Global Environmental Governance Project

Yale Center for Environmental Law & Policy

New Haven, CT 06511

http://www.yale.edu/gegproject





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil E

Harrison

Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:34 PM

To: Pam Chasek

Cc: Geped list (E-mail)

Subject: RE: Theory in International Environmental Politics





Pam:



Thanks for your input; you are the first.



When you say that the 4th edition "tries to cover this more than the

earlier

editions" are you suggesting that there are no explicit coherent

statements

of theory to report or synthesize or that you and your colleagues did

not

have the space to do this (I have not yet seen this forthcoming book)?




Cheers,



Neil



      -----Original Message-----

      From: Pam Chasek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

      Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:32 AM

      To: Neil E Harrison

      Subject: RE: Theory in International Environmental Politics







      Dear Neil:







      Did anyone ever respond to your e-mail? The 4th edition of

Global

Environmental Politics (forthcoming from Westview Press in December)

tries

to cover this more than the earlier editions did. I also think that

David

Downie has covered some of this in Regina S. Axelrod, David L. Downie

and

Norman J. Vig, The Global Environment: Institutions, Law and Policy,
2nd

Ed.

(Washington, DC: Congressional Quarterly Press, 2004)







      Pam







      ******************************

      Pamela Chasek, Ph.D.

      Director, International Studies

      Assistant Professor, Government

      Manhattan College

      Riverdale, NY 10471 USA

      tel: +1-718-862-7248

      e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

      ******************************



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      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil E

Harrison

      Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:50 PM

      To: Geped list (E-mail)

      Subject: Theory in International Environmental Politics







      Gepeders:



      The recent discussion of bibliographic entries for an

Encyclopedia

of Green Movements made me think about the ideas that drive gathering
of

empirical data. I usually have taught the International Environmental

Politics class inductively, from case studies with encouragement to
the

students to think theoretically in drawing generalized conclusions
from

multiple cases. This latter part of the process is entertaining but
not

always very fruitful even with my prompting. Perhaps they need some

examples

of 'meta-theory' in the issue area to chew on much as students in a

security

course would be fed realism. Do you have any suggestions for a good

statement or survey of directly relevant meta-theory for students of

international environmental politics to digest?



      Cheers,



      Neil Harrison









Liliana Andonova
Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies and Government
Department of Government
Colby College
4000 Mayflower Hill
Waterville, ME 04901

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