I would like to bring this discussion back to life Alex: now that you are planning on making the web-console a lot more modulated, is there any way we could modulate the logic in the console? To bring out more of the MVC model? -Matt K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonnek, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: RE: console design
> I guess the way I think of it right now is to compare it to Jboss: > Web console, > Applet console, > Eclipse plugin (a personal favorite of mine). > Maybe these are too functionally different to be considered for developing a > "reusable architecture", but I would just like to bring it to the table for > discussion now to have an idea of goals/ambitions. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sonnek, Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:48 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: console design > > I'm not even sure that the client app is needed (thus this thread), but I DO > think that it is important IF one is used, that they are functionally and > visually similar. As more and more things go into the web console, it > doesn't make sense for the thick client to "rewrite" to stay current or vice > versa. I understand that JMX does not require the added abstraction, but > for an enterprise system to have two separate views of the same information > and same operation, it does NOT make sense to duplicate the coding effort. > HTML or Swing or SWT or Twiddle should just be a view overtop of the same > engine. I do not know if this kind of thing is even possible (same logic > with different presentation layers), but I would like to see the duplicate > effort minimized at best. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Kurjanowicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: console design > > I think a while ago we decided that we weren't going to use some sort of > middle-api because the JMX and J2EE Mgmt api's were simple enough to use > (See the wiki about this). I think that making them functionally equivilent > is up to the writer of the console. > > -Matt K > mkurjano at cc.gatech.edu > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sonnek, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:12 PM > Subject: console design > > > > looking at the current implementation of the JMX console, brings some > > questions to mind. are there any plan to have an applet/webstart > > application to interact with geronimo? if so, i would like to start on > > integrating the current console and abstracting it for web or client use. > i > > think it would be a good idea to keep them functionally equal, and as > > similar in use and design as possible. i'm a big fan of webstart, but is > a > > client app neccesary? real time stats (server load, statistics, etc) are > > best viewed with a thick client IMO. > > > > congrats go out to everyone that has worked so hard this week! it's > amazing > > what you guys have accomplished! > > > > Ryan > > >
