I think explorer is a fine name for a module. Generic names are bad
IMO, but I know some of you hold them near and dear ;-)
--jason
On Nov 21, 2003, at 12:39 AM, James Strachan wrote:
On 21 Nov 2003, at 07:04, n. alex rupp wrote:
Jeremy made some great points in here. The two types of applications
are
sufficiently specialized that they will require their own component
structures.
I'm not concerned at all with thick client UI development and believe
we can
offer more features faster with a thin-client approach, *and* that
they'll be of
higher quality.
I disagree; I hacked together a swing JMX console in about 2 hours
(its in the explorer module - I should probably rename this to
console-swing or something now console has been renamed to
console-web). It still needs to support setting of attributes, method
invocations & graphing - some nicer layouts of forms would be good
too.
I think we should support both.
Also we should try out this eclipse JMX console which looks pretty
neat to check it works with Geronimo...
http://panoptesmgmt.sourceforge.net/
e.g.
http://panoptesmgmt.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
I'm not really a UI person, but I would like to see us reach a
compromise where the console is easy to use for a new or
inexperienced
user, but offers a way to expose the raw details to the experienced
one.
Agreed.
I experimented at ApacheCon with a scripting console for J2EE - think
SQL query console, but for EJBs / MBeans / JNDI. So in a swing UI you
can perform arbitrary queries & navigations around Ejbs like you would
with an SQL query tool, but talking to the EJB tier rather than SQL
tier. e.g. so you could type things like
customers =
context.lookup("/client/test/CustomerBeanHome").findAllGoldCustomers()
customers.map { it.orders.product }
To return all the products ordered by your gold customers (for
example).
I'd like to integrate this into the swing console. There's no reason
why we can't add this kind of feature into the web console too for
advanced users.
James
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