Cool, James. That's great news. MVC is perfect for thick-client UIs, too : ) Now everyone who wants to scratch that itch can do so (ich habe es genug f�r mich gekratzt).
It sounds like Matt and Ryan are already thinking a lot about this stuff. Does one (or both) of them want to lead the effort on developing the swing UI? (I'm sure James will if they won't, and will help them if they run across any issues). There are probably dozens of people on the list who want to help with the Swing UI, who have a lot of experience with UI design or who know JMX like the back of their hand. If not, this is a perfect chance for newcomers to get involved (other than writing unit tests) and learn some new skills. Matt and Ryan are both very competent developers and show a lot of initiative for pushing in this direction : ) If it sounded before like I was suggesting that the Geronimo project shouldn't have a swing UI, I apologize--you guys should know that wasn't what I was trying to say (and even if I were, I don't make decisions around here ; ) I never want to close the door on new ideas or new, useful components to plug in. I think that stuff is great. I was just trying to convey that I personally specialize in thin client servlet approaches and will stick with them because it's where I operate most efficiently and can make the best use of my time. I'd probably be more of a hindrance than a benefit to skilled a thick-client UI team. Again, thanks for the help and the great work, James. Best luck to Matt & Ryan on driving the swing effort if they choose to do so. If they have specific ideas down the line of ways they could reuse pieces of my code and want me to help abstract out bits for their use, I will do whatever I can to help them. -- N.
