I think that an IDE plugin is a MUST. Coming from a corporate development where running "separate" applications is basically frowned upon, it is very important to me that geronimo be compatable with an IDE. The jboss IDE is a terrific example of this. It provides basic functionality, and allows beginning developers to lauch their app server without running another console to monitor the server logs.
Again, I would like to tackle what functionality is applicable to all of these clients (start/stop/restart, view server logs, etc), and what functionality is specific to each client. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Mariano Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new console-swing team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, what about an eclipse-plugin? I am currently working on doing a JSR-77 client for eclipse (will post something on Sunday). I personally favor to have the console integrated in the ide. I do understand though, that eclipse is not everybodys choice. Cheers, Mariano On Friday 21 November 2003 19:11, Matthew David Kurjanowicz wrote: > Oh oh, pick me! pick me! :) I really think that this is a good idea, > and a good alternative (for me developing) to the twiddle comand > client. There are a few things there that I've been trying to figure > out there that just aren't working dealing with the twiddle cli - such > as keeping track of state, etc. Besides, I have more experience > developing swing UI's then CLI interfaces. > > I'm willing to lead work on a swing console, and hopefully will be > able to extend James' code. I started looking at it last night and it > looks doable. > > Hoeffenlich geht es gut. (And that's the extent of my memory of HS > Deutsch > > :) ). > > -Matt K. > > > Cool, James. That's great news. MVC is perfect for thick-client > > UIs, too : ) Now everyone who wants to scratch that itch can do so > > (ich habe es genug f�r mich gekratzt). > > > > It sounds like Matt and Ryan are already thinking a lot about this > > stuff. Does one (or both) of them want to lead the effort on > > developing the swing UI? (I'm sure James will if they won't, and > > will help them if they run across any issues). There are probably > > dozens of people on the list who want to help with the Swing UI, who > > have a lot of experience with UI design or who know JMX like the > > back of their hand. If not, this is a perfect chance for newcomers > > to get involved (other than writing unit tests) and learn some new > > skills. > > > > Matt and Ryan are both very competent developers and show a lot of > > initiative for pushing in this direction : ) If it sounded before > > like I was suggesting that the Geronimo project shouldn't have a > > swing UI, I apologize--you guys should know that wasn't what I was > > trying to say (and even if I were, I don't make decisions around > > here ; ) I never want to close the door on new ideas or new, useful > > components to plug in. I think that stuff is great. I was just > > trying to convey that I personally specialize in thin client servlet > > approaches and will stick with them because it's where I operate > > most efficiently and can make the best use of my time. I'd probably > > be more of a hindrance than a benefit to skilled a thick-client UI > > team. > > > > Again, thanks for the help and the great work, James. Best luck to > > Matt & Ryan on driving the swing effort if they choose to do so. If > > they have specific ideas down the line of ways they could reuse > > pieces of my code and want me to help abstract out bits for their > > use, I will do whatever I can to help them. -- N. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/vlWtSraqt+SsFIMRAlKJAJsGYIbc2pB7qQgf9cn5SdJ1V/MbqACdGs6g JUesP92W2htblsRtTUCyc/A= =kHli -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
