hi !

>Le mar 29/06/10 09:42 , Christopher Felton  a écrit::
>On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Jakob Eriksson [email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:09:06 -0500, Christopher Felton
>> > I believe only Atmel publishes enough information to be able to PAR and
>> > create a bit file.  All other major FPGA vendors this information in
>> > proprietary.  Only their tools can be used for PAR and bit file
>> creation.
>> Where can I find this documentation?
>I believe from the Atmel website.  But I have never looked for the document
>myself.  But I have heard many times that the Atmel data is available for
>their FPGAs.

Atmel's FPGA are antiquated, obsolete, useless.
it was not a good idea to mention them because it gives
a false hope to the readers.
In fact, at their level, what they need is something that
works and can do things, and Atmel's chips don't do this.
I fact everybody is stuck with proprietary solutions,
for ages, and it will not change soon...

I confess that I have a little box  with ATMEL CPLDs,
just because the lot was affordable and the ZIF were
worth it. But I stick to the Actel FPGA in practice.
the chips are cheaper, affordable, with decent density
and modern interfaces and features (FIFO, differential I/O, PLL...)

So please, don't waste your time with Atmel.
On eBay one can find starter kits for the major FPGA makers,
the hard part is with installing and using their bloated and
buggy software which usually works best on MS Windows :-(

In the future, I intend to create and make small FPGA modules
based on Actel ProASIC3 chips but it's not coming soon.
If someone is interested, contact me in private.

>.chris
yg


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