Fun with email. Hi Carol,
nice to hear from you again. Just curious, are you a Gimp user, a graphical designer, a programmer, do you work for gimp.org, or all of the above? Joe PS > > > > How would I go about creating an mspaint user interface for the gimp? > > > > > > > i would start by seeing if you can get it to compile on windows first. > > > then ask again for instructions here. > > > > No need to do that... Gimp just as easy as mspaint after all. If > > mspaint is a "paint program", then gimp is too, only better. > > > > > > Can I do it with your scheme interpreter? > > > > > > > you would have to answer this yourself. > > > > No, I don't think so... If your Scheme is anything like AutoLisp it > > can only be used in the application domain, to automate the drawing > > process, like a macro language. I don't expect I can put new buttons > > in the tool box. Hm, maybe I can.. > > > it is not my scheme! no way. > > personally, i don't think scheme should be here. windows95 and > windowsNT are basically scheme engines, aren't they? > The Scheme I'm talking about was/is a dialect of Common Lisp, so I don't know what you mean by "scheme engine". I read the Gimp documentation online very quickly, and I associated your Script-Fu dialog with a Lisp interpreter. I must have seen some example. Since both Gimp and AutoCad have a lisp interface, and since they are both graphics programs, I thought maybe the same people worked on the. They seem to share the same interests. Me, I like Lisp, but non programmers are usually intimidated by all the parenthesses ((((((())))))) is a valid lisp expression. > > I was thinking I'd probably need a programming language, like C, and > > your plug-in interface, to extend gimp, but I still don't know what > > you consider a plug-in, hm, transformers for other file formats? > > > are you looking at information online or at the source code while you > think about all of this? Just the documentation. > > > > Thanks Carol, > > > you are welcome. it would actually be helpful if you explained what > steps you took to make that image. it could/should have been better. I couldn't even begin to remember what I did, because I made alot of mistakes. A couple times Gimp seemed to get confused and the move operations didn't move but copy the figures, so I would quit and reopen the drawing. Actually, I'm quite happy with the quality, just a bit surprised the font came out so small, probably because I was overlooking some properties. I would pay more attention next time. On 2/1/06, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:27:13PM +0200, Joe Schaffner wrote: > > My First GIF: http://www.geocities.com/klairbab/alpha.gif > > > i think you will find that the lines of the elipse are smoother if you > flatten the image first and then save. i am curious, when you made the > image, did you see an "Export Dialog"? if export is indexing first and > then flattening, it should be changed.... > > > > > It looks like I can "select" the layer using the Layer dialog and move > > > > the entire layer to position the text. I'll try that tomorrow. That > > > > would be easier than cutting and pasting regions on the drawing > > > > surface, like you do with mspaint, but I got pretty good at it. What > > > > bothered me was moving the edges of the layer off screen. I don't like > > > > surprises. > > > > > > > that quality can become useful. there is a difference between canvas > > > size and image size. if at any moment you are extremely uncomfortable > > > with some of the image stuff not being in view in the image area, simply > > > Image/Canvas to image size (or something like that in the menu). > > > > Moving the Text boxes around was a breeze. I just made sure the > > "?????" layer was current (must be "Background" in English). Then I > > chose the Move tool and simply moved the cursor, slowly, over the > > text. A little hand appeared, which I clicked, and got the Move icon > > again. The scope was clear, and I could position the text inside the > > ellipses, no problem. I didn't even need to consider the layers. > > > if you work with it more, the relationship between the move tool and the > layers will become more familar. > > > > the text tool has several options, one of them is a reset. please use > > > the reset button and then be careful of which font you choose. the free > > > software tends to show you all of your computer fonts. not all of those > > > fonts were made for decorative image making. > > > > Ok, I'll remember that, the reset button... > > > > The font I'm using is the TTF Times New Roman I took off a Windows > > system. I chose 14 pt. but the .xcf came out a little small. Looks > > more like 8 pt. The gif actually compares well with the browser, just > > a little smaller than expected. The rasterization process must be the > > same (of course). > > > my advice about the reset button was a way for me to avoid discussing > anti-aliasing and auto-hinting and fixing your tool options via email. > all of these things matter when rendering text with gimp. > > also, my advice was about how to fix not smooth text (this part of the > original mail has been edited out). if your image is being indexed > before it is flattened, as i mentioned earlier, it would cause the > problems that you had described in your original mail. > > > > > Hey! I couldn't find any grid. > > > > > > > View/Grid > > > > Sorry about that. I found the Grid, no problem. I have a Greek desktop > > and I overlooked it. > > > the original question for this was that you had a grid but it did not > seem to do anything. there is a difference in grids in GIMP. one kind > is painted on and the other kind is part of GIMPs memory about the image > area. > > > > > I noticed one of the layers had a grid-like background, don't know how > > > > it got there, and I couldn't make it do anything with it, so I gave > > > > up. > > > > > > > it is also possible to paint a grid onto a layer. > > > Filters/Render/Patterns/Grid, perhaps you did this. > > > > What is that checkerboard pattern? > > > paint trick. adrian likins wrote it, i think. > > > > > How would I go about creating an mspaint user interface for the gimp? > > > > > > > i would start by seeing if you can get it to compile on windows first. > > > then ask again for instructions here. > > > > No need to do that... Gimp just as easy as mspaint after all. If > > mspaint is a "paint program", then gimp is too, only better. > > > > > > Can I do it with your scheme interpreter? > > > > > > > you would have to answer this yourself. > > > > No, I don't think so... If your Scheme is anything like AutoLisp it > > can only be used in the application domain, to automate the drawing > > process, like a macro language. I don't expect I can put new buttons > > in the tool box. Hm, maybe I can.. > > > it is not my scheme! no way. > > personally, i don't think scheme should be here. windows95 and > windowsNT are basically scheme engines, aren't they? > > > I was thinking I'd probably need a programming language, like C, and > > your plug-in interface, to extend gimp, but I still don't know what > > you consider a plug-in, hm, transformers for other file formats? > > > are you looking at information online or at the source code while you > think about all of this? > > > > i wonder even if mspaint is a > > > scheme thing using libgimp. there is no way of knowing what the heck ms > > > did to make software! > > > > Wouldn't that be funny, if MS ripped you off. You wouldn't be the first > > victim. > > > there is a lot of power in not wanting to take the blame for something. > i don't think that any of the gimp developers past or present want to > take the blame for MS software. so, no -- it wouldn't be funny. > > > > > > Curious thing, AutoCad also has a Lisp interface, which none of my > > > > architect friends can use. > > > > > > > > Who inspired who? > > > > > > > meanwhile, ICQ claims all .scm (i read this somewhere on the internet) > > > > > > > Sorry, what is ICQ and .scm? > > > .scm is the extension of the gimps script-fu files. and i just read > that ICQ installs itself to read all .scm, i did not read what ICQ was. > > > > to me, personally, it speaks well of your friends to not be able to use > > > lisp. > > > > It also makes me more useful. :) > > > > Thanks Carol, > > > you are welcome. it would actually be helpful if you explained what > steps you took to make that image. it could/should have been better. > > > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > _______________________________________________ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
