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> 
> Build up a community that wants something  better but uses gimpshop as a 
> temporary hack. Learn from gimpshop what is needed and then draw development 
> energy from the community to develop something better.
> 
> My plea is for you guys to stop using your guts to think and let your brains 
> provide sound and constructive strategies for the long term benefit of gimp.

I have been following this discussion and I think I can understand both
points of view, to some extent. I have never heard of gimpshop and I
read this list to learn about and to try to understand Gimp. Anything
else is, in my opinion. irrelevant and  should not appear here. 

Norman

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