On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:34 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<ava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 26 2018, Duy Nguyen wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:30 AM Per Lundberg <per.lundb...@hibox.tv> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/13/18 1:22 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
> >> > This is going to totally hose automation.  My last job had files which
> >> > might move from tracked to untracked (a file that had become generated),
> >> > and long-running CI and build systems would need to be able to check out
> >> > one status and switch to the other.  Your proposed change will prevent
> >> > those systems from working, whereas they previously did.
> >> >
> >> > I agree that your proposal would have been a better design originally,
> >> > but breaking the way automated systems currently work is probably going
> >> > to be a dealbreaker.
> >>
> >> How about something like this:
> >>
> >> 1. Introduce a concept with "garbage" files, which git is "permitted to
> >> delete" without prompting.
> >>
> >> 2. Retain the current default, i.e. "ignored files are garbage" for now,
> >> making the new behavior _opt in_ to avoid breaking automated
> >> systems/existing scripts for anyone. Put the setting for this behind a
> >> new core.* config flag.
> >>
> >> 3. In the plan for version 3.0 (a new major version where some breakage
> >> can be tolerable, according to Semantic Versioning), change the default
> >> so that "only explicit garbage is garbage". Include very clear notices
> >> of this in the release notes. The config flag is retained, but its
> >> default changes from true->false or vice versa. People who dislike the
> >> new behavior can easily change back to the 2.x semantics.
> >
> > How does this garbage thing interact with "git clean -x"? My
> > interpretation of this flag/attribute is that at version 3.0 by
> > default all ignored files are _not_ garbage, so "git clean -x" should
> > not remove any of them. Which is weird because most of ignored files
> > are like *.o that should be removed.
> >
> > I also need to mark "precious" on untracked or even tracked files (*).
> > Not sure how this "garbage" attribute interacts with that.
> >
> > (*) I was hoping I could get the idea [1] implemented in somewhat good
> > shape before presenting here. But I'm a bit slow on that front. So
> > yeah this "precious" on untracked/tracked thingy may be even
> > irrelevant if the patch series will be rejected.
>
> I think a garbage (or trashable) flag, if implemented, wouldn't need any
> special case in git-clean, i.e. -x would remove all untracked files,
> whether ignored or garbage/trashable. That's what my patch to implement
> it does:
> https://public-inbox.org/git/87zhuf3gs0....@evledraar.gmail.com/
>
> I think that makes sense. Users running "git clean" have "--dry-run" and
> unlike "checkout a branch" or "merge this commit" where we'll now shred
> data implicitly it's obvious that git-clean is going to shred your data.

Then that't not what I want. If I'm going to mark to keep "config.mak"
around, I'm not going to carefully move it away before doing "git
clean -fdx" then move it back. No "git clean --dry-run" telling me to
make a backup of config.mak is no good.
-- 
Duy

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