On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:47 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<ava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> How about something like this:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Introduce a concept with "garbage" files, which git is "permitted to
> >> >> delete" without prompting.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Retain the current default, i.e. "ignored files are garbage" for now,
> >> >> making the new behavior _opt in_ to avoid breaking automated
> >> >> systems/existing scripts for anyone. Put the setting for this behind a
> >> >> new core.* config flag.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. In the plan for version 3.0 (a new major version where some breakage
> >> >> can be tolerable, according to Semantic Versioning), change the default
> >> >> so that "only explicit garbage is garbage". Include very clear notices
> >> >> of this in the release notes. The config flag is retained, but its
> >> >> default changes from true->false or vice versa. People who dislike the
> >> >> new behavior can easily change back to the 2.x semantics.
> >> >
> >> > How does this garbage thing interact with "git clean -x"? My
> >> > interpretation of this flag/attribute is that at version 3.0 by
> >> > default all ignored files are _not_ garbage, so "git clean -x" should
> >> > not remove any of them. Which is weird because most of ignored files
> >> > are like *.o that should be removed.
> >> >
> >> > I also need to mark "precious" on untracked or even tracked files (*).
> >> > Not sure how this "garbage" attribute interacts with that.
> >> >
> >> > (*) I was hoping I could get the idea [1] implemented in somewhat good
> >> > shape before presenting here. But I'm a bit slow on that front. So
> >> > yeah this "precious" on untracked/tracked thingy may be even
> >> > irrelevant if the patch series will be rejected.
> >>
> >> I think a garbage (or trashable) flag, if implemented, wouldn't need any
> >> special case in git-clean, i.e. -x would remove all untracked files,
> >> whether ignored or garbage/trashable. That's what my patch to implement
> >> it does:
> >> https://public-inbox.org/git/87zhuf3gs0....@evledraar.gmail.com/
> >>
> >> I think that makes sense. Users running "git clean" have "--dry-run" and
> >> unlike "checkout a branch" or "merge this commit" where we'll now shred
> >> data implicitly it's obvious that git-clean is going to shred your data.
> >
> > Then that't not what I want. If I'm going to mark to keep "config.mak"
> > around, I'm not going to carefully move it away before doing "git
> > clean -fdx" then move it back. No "git clean --dry-run" telling me to
> > make a backup of config.mak is no good.
>
> Understood. I mean this in the context of solving the problem users have
> with running otherwise non-data-destroying commands like "checkout" and
> "merge" and getting their data destroyed, which is overwhelmingly why
> this topic gets resurrected.
>
> Some of the solutions overlap with this thing you want, but I think it's
> worth keeping the distinction between the two in mind.

On the other hand all use cases should be considered. It's going to be
a mess to have "trashable" attribute that applies to some commands
while "precious" to some others (and even worse when they overlap,
imagine having to define both in .gitattributes)

> I.e. I can
> imagine us finding some acceptable solution to the data shredding
> problem that doesn't implement this mode for "git-clean", or the other
> way around.
-- 
Duy

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