Ow sorry Andy, I didn't see it was Marco who wrote that. Damn... That changes things. Well I don't have the time to correct it right now.... Coffee break is over. Please, I hope my feedback isn't misunderstood.
Ok I have to run... *Disclaimer* De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is alleen bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Gebruik door anderen is verboden. Als dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht dit aan de afzender te melden. De afzender kan niet garanderen dat dit bericht juist, tijdig, volledig en virusvrij wordt overgebracht en kan hiervoor niet aansprakelijk worden gesteld. Externe e-mail wordt niet gebruikt voor het aangaan van verplichtingen. The information in this e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. Use is prohibited by others. If this message is not intended for you, you are requested to inform the sender. The sender can not guarantee that this message correctly, timely, fully and freely transmitted virus and can not be held responsible. External e-mail is not used for entering into commitments. (Minder storend kan ik hem helaas niet maken) On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:01 AM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> wrote: > No i don't make money from the ads. The ads still cost me money, if I > would count all the work to have the ads on the website, and the hoops > google lets you jump trough to keep things going. > > and how much do advertisers PAY google per ad. so how much % goes to > google? Sure there is some money coming my way. But Google does not pay my > hours with that. > > I'm not here to make Google happy... Google makes us think that they give > us something, but in fact google is TAKING our time. > > And i just hope that they stop wasting time and put things at least into > balance. > > > Ok not locked out.. then how do you call it when you try to open the door > with a key that is not accepted by google? > That's LOCKED OUT in my world. And i stay LOCKED out until i have a NEW > KEY that works. > > > Freedom of speech is something you don't seem to understand. It is there > so that people CAN rant and CAN complain so that things CAN change. > If you don't like rant's and complaining then you sould not read posts on > a support-ish forum. I have worked on a helpdesk. And thats what you get > there... people who have complaints and rant about it as long as the issue > is NOT SOLVED. > > > And again you twist things around by saying that I make sweeping > statements? I merely tell how I experience thingstrying to explain what > is actually wrong. That you act as ....well, a fanboy (? sorry I can't find > an other english word for it) trying to ignore that, that is not my > problem is it? > > But i'm not here to fight you, you also have your freedom of speech. But > allo of this is NOT solving the issue of being LOCKED OUT every time. > > Send feedback is not available in the login screen, and yes i have send > feedback, But that feedback seems not to arrive there there is no way for > me to verify that Google has actually seen my feedback and is actually > doing something. Writing on a wall and hoping that someone read it is > kinda silly when you don't know where the wall is located... (dark ally, > main entrance) > > If my mail was business critical I sure would not put it on a server where > Google has more access to my data then myself. > > And I'm not sure where you are from Andy Are you in the USA? > There is also a cultural difference it seems, here where I am in Europe > people speak their mind. > In places as the US and the UK people try much harder to be polite and > police themselves, and never solve anything because of it. (half baked > political solutions at best) Now i must say on a political level Europe is > just as bad... > > So if you don't mind I give you the last word, on this. And I go back to > the real issue of getting locked out. I think I was clear enough about my > point of view. > I don't hate Google, else I would not use it. But I don't like how things > are done when it comes to support. And that's constructive feedback where I > come from > > Wasting time on new passwords costs less time then giving constructive > feedback to deaf ears.. > > Larry, Sergei... Come on guys. I'm sure you can do better then this. > > > > > > > > > *Disclaimer* > De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is alleen bestemd voor de > geadresseerde. Gebruik door anderen is verboden. Als dit bericht niet voor > u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht dit aan de afzender te melden. De afzender > kan niet garanderen dat dit bericht juist, tijdig, volledig en virusvrij > wordt overgebracht en kan hiervoor niet aansprakelijk worden gesteld. > Externe e-mail wordt niet gebruikt voor het aangaan van verplichtingen. > > The information in this e-mail is intended solely for the addressee. Use > is prohibited by others. If this message is not intended for you, you are > requested to inform the sender. The sender can not guarantee that this > message correctly, timely, fully and freely transmitted virus and can not > be held responsible. External e-mail is not used for entering into > commitments. > > (Minder storend kan ik hem helaas niet maken) > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Marko Vukovic <marko.vuko...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:27 AM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But it is also the login of my Adsense... And that makes more money for >>> Google without doing any work then me doing all the work to place the ads... >>> >> >> You don't make any money from these ads? >> >> >>> And the ads that are in my gmail, that does not bring google any money? >>> If they would not add ads to my Gmail screen THEN it would be a bit more >>> Gratis, But then they still will capitalase on MY DATA. >>> >>> So please do not confuse me about 'free'. Google is NOT free at all, >>> and it is also not gratis. They pretty much use all of us and sell our data >>> to whoever wants to pay for it. So from that perspective you may call it >>> theft! But I still don't think that Larry and Sergei are the bad guys. But >>> with all that money that they squeese out of OUR data they could eventually >>> show more respect to us. It's their choice not to do that so then it is my >>> right to say as much about it as I want. >>> >> >> You make a lot of sweeping statements about Google and our data, do you >> have the facts to back this up? Nobody said it's not your right but it's >> also our right to not have to listen to your rants. If you practise proper >> Netiquette and stop swearing on a public forum then perhaps somebody may >> lift a finger to help. >> >> Yes, you get targeted ads in Gmail (I seem to only ever get 2 in my >> Promotions tab) but you do also get quite a lot in return. Surely you >> cannot also expect direct support for hundreds of millions of users? >> >> >> >>> It still does not answer the question, so I will keep reminding. :-) >>> >> >> You demand response yet you did not answer my questions. Have you a) >> cleared cache and cookies and b) tried another browser? Do you have any >> browser extensions that may be interacting with your Google account? Any >> other devices? >> You also don't mention what platform you are using. If you have Windows, >> it is possible that you have a malware infection. >> >> I have users with the same name as me often trying to reset my password >> and never once been locked out of my own account. >> >> You don't seem to be locked out either as you are able to reset the >> password and get back in. >> >> >>> And sure they also offer a solution to pay on top of it all it you >>> really want, why not... I didn't know that still existed. >>> >> >> If you want direct support, this is what you must do. Especially if >> your email is business-critical. You won't get ads in your Gmail either. >> >> I sure like to suggest my idea to google, but.. there is no-way to reach >>> them... Not even for important questions. >>> But a real improvement would be to offer people an option to contact >>> google with questions in the first place. >>> >> >> So, have you used the 'Send Feedback' option in the Help? 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