On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:54 AM, || ΣΖΟ || <manostie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ik keep using it because it is too much work at this point in time to move > again.. > > I moved to Google because it looked like a good idea at the time. Well it > was... Hotmail was a very bad choice... > > Hmm ok. then another question Where can i find decent Google support? > For all the issues in the group it really looks like a makeshift Google > helpdesk.. > Well, it is a bit of a makeshift helpdesk, users helping users, since 90% of all problems are user problems, and the 10% of the time it's actually Google's fault, there's enough consensus in the group (me too, me too) to allow us to know and stop looking for a user problem. Out of 20K users in this group, you're the single one having this problem. This is less than 0.1% of the users here having the problem. Also, since you said it's impacting your AdSense, sounds more like a google account issue, not a gmail product issue. The other reason we get so many help requests is that people tend to miss that when you click your gear icon at the top right of your GMail window, there are two options (in US English, not sure about wording in other languages), "Send Feedback", and "Help". Send Feedback will send your message directly to a real google person (no guarantee if they'll send a personalized reply, but I have had issues get resolved like that; even without a response), and from "Help" there's a link to the OFFICIAL GMAIL PRODUCT FORUM. "VISIT HELP FORUM" it says in US English. > Good that there is something but ... o well. > > My opinion is based on the facts that I described, However I also didn't > notice that several different people where replying. > In the e-mail i just did not expect replies from different people . I > usually only have correspondence with one person at a time. > It looked twisted because to me it looked like I still was in the > conversation with Andy. My apologies for that. > You posted to a public, international, forum. You need to be aware of your posting, that will help you anticipate whether you'll get a single person response (an e-mail) or multi-person (a forum). > I was on about cultural differences. I'm Dutch BTW. > > I'm not into this business, I'm just a customer who ran into a very > irritating issue that I like to see solved and who gives feedback how I > experience it. If that's not constructive then what is? > Constructive in this case refers to the way in which you communicated your problem, and responded to those endeavoring to help. Cursing is never constructive, in any language. But as I said, I will move my email to another place, but I can't move > Adsense, so the issue is still there. Your suggestion to take on Big G does > not make sense. Larry and Sergei however have the means to make it better, > and it is also in their best interest.. But IF I would be in their > business, then yes, I would have people actively looking for issues and > fixing them ASAP. And I would also let people know what issues are being > fixed. And when they are expected to be solved. > Again, it's affecting multiple products, it's not actually a GMail issue then, it's a Google Account issue. You seem to be the only sufferer, so isolated issue, very likely to be user problem, and despite several people trying to help you, you seem unwilling to take their constructive suggestions, often resorting to attacks. > > > > > > > > > > *Disclaimer* > De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is alleen bestemd voor de > geadresseerde. Gebruik door anderen is verboden. Als dit bericht niet voor > u bestemd is, wordt u verzocht dit aan de afzender te melden. 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The ads still cost me money, if I >>> would count all the work to have the ads on the website, and the hoops >>> google lets you jump trough to keep things going. >>> >>> and how much do advertisers PAY google per ad. so how much % goes to >>> google? Sure there is some money coming my way. But Google does not pay my >>> hours with that. >>> >>> I'm not here to make Google happy... Google makes us think that they >>> give us something, but in fact google is TAKING our time. >>> >> >> This is your opinion. If it is such a waste of time and money for you, >> then why do you keep using it? >> >> Freedom of speech is something you don't seem to understand. It is there >>> so that people CAN rant and CAN complain so that things CAN change. >>> If you don't like rant's and complaining then you sould not read posts >>> on a support-ish forum. I have worked on a helpdesk. And thats what you >>> get there... people who have complaints and rant about it as long as the >>> issue is NOT SOLVED. >>> >> >> I don't think you understand. This is a closed, moderated group. It is >> not a helpdesk nor is it a support-ish forum. It is simply a group of >> users. You will not change anything Google does by complaining here. >> >> And again you twist things around by saying that I make sweeping >>> statements? I merely tell how I experience thingstrying to explain what >>> is actually wrong. That you act as ....well, a fanboy (? sorry I can't find >>> an other english word for it) trying to ignore that, that is not my >>> problem is it? >>> >> >> I did not twist anything. You made statements, I asked if you had facts. >> You seem to be of the attitude that your opinion is fact. That you act as a >> Troll is not my problem is it? >> >> But i'm not here to fight you, you also have your freedom of speech. But >>> allo of this is NOT solving the issue of being LOCKED OUT every time. >>> >> >> YOUR issue. >> >> And I'm not sure where you are from Andy Are you in the USA? >>> There is also a cultural difference it seems, here where I am in Europe >>> people speak their mind. >>> In places as the US and the UK people try much harder to be polite and >>> police themselves, and never solve anything because of it. (half baked >>> political solutions at best) Now i must say on a political level Europe is >>> just as bad... >>> >> >> I don't know what you are on about here but FYI I am in South Africa. >> >> >>> So if you don't mind I give you the last word, on this. And I go back to >>> the real issue of getting locked out. I think I was clear enough about my >>> point of view. >>> I don't hate Google, else I would not use it. But I don't like how >>> things are done when it comes to support. And that's constructive feedback >>> where I come from >>> >>> Wasting time on new passwords costs less time then giving constructive >>> feedback to deaf ears.. >>> >> >> Perhaps that's because your feedback was not constructive at all. >> >> Larry, Sergei... Come on guys. 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