Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
hi Justin,

I tried the NVT once with certain changes in the parameter file. Now its
finished the 10 ps. But I have used the charge as the same from the
antechamber program. Do you think the result will be reliable? Please check
the mdp file attached for NVT.


The .mdp file seems reasonable. QM charges are not necessarily the end result in Gromos parameterization. In fact, such calculations are often unnecessary. In my experience, assigning charges based on functional groups already present in the force field is often a reasonable starting point. But in any case, you must always verify your results and, in the end, follow the same parameterization scheme as the original force field (which, in the case of the Gromos force fields, does not include QM charge calculations).

-Justin

Thnaks for your help Aswathy Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
My point was I have set the NVT equilibration as 10 ps. But it run only 5.4
 ps. when I checked the temperature It was also stabilized at 5.4 ps. That
is why I went ahead with NPT.Can we consider OK, if the equilibration stops
 before the time we set??


Absolutely not.  If any MD process stops before it is supposed to, that means
it crashed.

I am following some literatures, from that i thought first I should equlibrate the water then give restraint to water and equilibrate the protein further. thats why I did in that way???I will check that once
again.


Not necessary.  In all the recent literature I have seen, position restraints
 are placed on the protein, while the solvent is free to move.  After some
time, all restraints are removed and production MD is conducted.

In any case, your problem occurs before you get to this stage. Your NVT is failing; you need to figure out why.

-Justin


Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
sorry..forgot to attach the file...

After my NVT I have checked the PE of the system..It was stabilised..So I
 thought everything was fine till NVT. How can i check whetehr its a
problem with NVT?Is that the box type could be the resaon?


Convergence of PE is a good indicator that energy minimization is complete.
 The purpose of NVT is to stabilize the temperature of the system.  My main
problem with what you said before was that you did 10 ps of NVT in 2600 steps. This seems wrong, given the fractional nature of the time step required to do such a procedure. Use gmxcheck on the .trr or .edr file to see how many frames it finds; verify that you have a complete trajectory.

Also, in the .mdp file you attached, you are applying position restraints
to the water in your system.  If you are not also restraining the protein,
it is probably colliding with the water, causing the explosion you are
seeing. Why are you restraining water during NPT equilibration, or during
MD for that matter?

-Justin

Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
Hi,

In my NPT step I think there is some poblem. i am getting the follo: error. I have used box as cubic I s that could be the problem????
Please see the md,..mop file

You haven't posted the .mdp file.  In any case, see my previous message.
I think something went wrong during NVT.  Here, the messages indicate
that your box is exploding.  See, for example:

http://oldwiki.gromacs.org/index.php/blowing_up

-Justin

Please try to hepl me.. Box[    2]={         nan,          nan, nan}
Can not fix pbc. Warning: Only triclinic boxes with the first vector
parallel to the x-axis and the second vector in the xy-plane are
supported. Box (3x3): Box[    0]={         nan,          nan,
nan} Box[ 1]={ nan,          nan,          nan} Box[    2]={
nan, nan, nan} Can not fix pbc. Warning: Only triclinic boxes with the
first vector parallel to the x-axis and the second vector in the
xy-plane are supported. Box (3x3): Box[    0]={         nan,
nan,          nan} Box[    1]={ nan,          nan,          nan} Box[
2]={         nan, nan, nan} Can not fix pbc. Warning: Only triclinic
boxes with the first vector parallel to the x-axis and the second
vector in the xy-plane are supported. Box (3x3): Box[    0]={
nan,          nan,          nan} Box[    1]={ nan,          nan,
nan} Box[    2]={         nan, nan, nan} Can not fix pbc. Warning: Only
triclinic boxes with the first vector parallel to the x-axis and the
second vector in the xy-plane are supported. Box (3x3): Box[    0]={
nan,          nan,          nan} Box[    1]={ nan,          nan,
nan} Box[    2]={         nan, nan, nan} Can not fix pbc.

------------------------------------------------------- Program mdrun,
 VERSION 4.0.4 Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 348

Fatal error: Number of grid cells is zero. Probably the system and box
 collapsed.

-------------------------------------------------------

"Would You Like to Be the Monster Tonight ?" (Captain Beefheart)


OIn some pev Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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 problem in ngmx

hi justin,

your suggestions were helpful. Actually  charges in the ligand topology
 was having the problem. So I have added the charges from the
antechamber. Did Energy minimization. Now did an NVT equilibration of
10 ps. It finished at 2600 steps. But shows reasonable Energy and
Temperature (checked in the xmgrace). Seems it works fine..Now started
the NPT equilibration.

Thank you very much for your support.

Aswathy Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" <gmx-users@gromacs.org> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:58:20 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai,
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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
Hi Justin,

Thanks for the reply.

Once again i tried to minimize the protein +ligand in vacuum. Also tried by varying the maximum force constant. But that too converged
at the 15 th step (or lesser steps based on the Fmax). The em.mdp
file i have attached here with. Please go through that once please
and tell me because of any of these parameters, the system behaves
odd??.

As I said before, it is not the step that matters, it is whether or not
 the system converges within your criteria.  I am assuming EM is
working, based on the fact that the process converges differently
depending on different target values for Fmax.  Your .mdp file looks
reasonable.

If we can clarify for a moment - several messages ago you claimed that you were doing a 20-ps NVT equilibration that was finishing at 15
steps, but that appears to not be the case.  Is it the NVT step that is
failing to complete? Is ngmx failing to display the NVT trajectory, and
did gmxcheck report problems with the .edr file?

I think you are correct that the itp file created by PRODRG need corrections. But how can I chek that is that the problem with that
file or how can i rectify?

Parameterization is very difficult.  Prepare for a lot of advanced
work. Please see here:

http://oldwiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Parameterization

-Justin

Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
Hi Justin,

I tried maximum to find out the problem but i failed in that.

I will give you the detailed steps..Kindly check once and tell me where is the problem. As you suggested now i am trying in gromacs 4.0.4 . 1. The ligand topology file is generated in PRODRG beta server using the GROMOS 96.1 force field. 2. The protein toplogy
file using gromos 96 43 a1 force field 3. Tried to minimize in
vacuum (Please find the em.mdp file). But the cycle finished at 15
steps. But in some previous post I saw that its not an error so I
went ahead with genbox and further minimization. But ended in the
same 15 th steps. also checked the gmxcheck for the files as you
suggested it show the following error.

What is most important is not the number of steps necessarily, but
that the potential energy converged to an appropriate value and you
reached an Fmax below your target.

Realize that using a topology straight from PRODRG is often not the best course. The charges and charge groups assigned by PRODRG often require manual modification and verification of the parameters. This
 could be a source of problem.

It may be that there is some kind of bug, but before that can be proposed, you have to demonstrate that the preparation steps were successful (i.e., EM criteria of potential energy and Fmax).

-Justin

'', 33685 atoms Last frame          0 time    1.000

Both files read correctly Checking energy file 1RBP_water_min.edr


------------------------------------------------------- Program gmxcheck, VERSION 4.0.4 Source code file: enxio.c, line: 283

Fatal error: Energy file 1RBP_water_min.edr not recognized, maybe different CPU? -------------------------------------------------------

"I Do It All the Time" (Magnapop)

Am I doing any mistake in the steps???? Please find some time to
help me.




Thank you very much, Aswathy Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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Ms. Aswathy S wrote:
Thank you very much for the reply...

gmxcheck of my out shows a "segementation fault" in the last
part. What could be the problem??

this is the last part of the output

x[31416] (-7.37978e-03  6.79718e+00  6.07531e+00) - (-7.40000e-03
6.79720e+00 6.07530e+00) x[31428] ( 2.35365e-01 -6.53947e-03 5.65519e+00) - ( 2.35400e-01 -6.50000e-03 5.65520e+00) x[31478] ( 1.54478e-02 6.14019e+00 5.74537e+00) - ( 1.54000e-02 6.14020e+00 5.74540e+00) Segmentation fault


The energy minimisation & the equilibration steps are finished at
15 step eventhough it was given for 20 ps(10000 steps).But the output coordinates file doesnt show any abnornmality as i checked
 in the viewer? My equilibration step was in NVT.

whether nothing is happening or any other problem?

If you got 15 steps when you expected 10000, it seems pretty clear
to me that something crashed very early on in your simulation.

-Justin

Thanks & regards, Aswathy




Dept. Biotechnology Ext. 3108

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Florian Dommert < domm...@icp.uni-stuttgart.de > wrote:


* Justin A. Lemkul < jalem...@vt.edu > [2009-06-13 07:31:17
-0400]:







Ms. Aswathy S wrote:


Hi,

after equlibration of my protein and ligand I tried to create the
 energy file ans well as the to display the trajectories using
ngmx option,. But it shows the follo: error,

Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified


Can't connect to X Server. Check your DISPLAY environment
variable


Seems like your X environment is somehow not properly configured.



If you are working through ssh, then you can :

$export DISPLAY=<your current computer's ip>:0.0



Or you are tunneling through a SSH connection. There are several
 possiblities:

1. Try ssh -X to login, this could solve the problem, if you are
in principle allowed to use X11 tunneling. 2. In case this does
not work either it can be that you are not allowed to tunnel X11.


However take care that you also need a properly configured
XServer running on your own system not just on the host you
login. So in case you use Windows or MacOS make sure this is the
case.

Flo










************************************************

also the g_energy command shows that ,

Program g_energy_mpi, VERSION 3.3.3 Source code file: enxio.c, line: 239


Fatal error: Energy file eq_2ps_ener.edr not recognized, maybe different CPU?


What does gmxcheck tell you about the file. Perhaps it has been corrupted in some way.

Also, you may want to work with a more current version (4.0.5) to
 utilize the newest features and bug fixes.

-Justin




Can any one help me, please???

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