Hey Kenny,

One thing I really want to recommend against is scratch or mindstorm. I
think they are both really fun and all, but no one that solely uses
graphical code block type systems self identify as a programmer or has
confidence to tackle issues that involve code. Honestly it defeats the
whole point of the exposure by making code look like a toy.

Personally I used the Mindstorm stuff when I was young (10-13) and never
thought I was cut out for coding because I was under the impression that I
was just using a toy, not really understanding how closely something like
scratch relates. It was only when I started writing some simple python
games a few years ago when I realized code is something I have the aptitude
for. Which is sad, honestly I wish I was "actually" exposed to code sooner.

Also definitely stir some interest and have a suitably challenging goal,
instead of doing school like lessons. That code academy stuff is super
boring and doesn't let you draw outside the lines. No interest means no
progress ( At least for me ). With Arduino's and Raspberry PIs there is
plenty of trouble to get into that might stir up some interest. Maybe
suggest an elaborate electronically controlled prank if that is your
daughters speed, or maybe something else! You know your daughter better
than us.

Cheers,
Paul

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote:

> You can get the Kano OS separate from the RasPi bundle.  If you already
> have a keyboard, mouse, HDMI TV (or HDMI to VGA + monitor) and an SD card,
> you have the pieces already.
>
> There are UK based PI magazines (MagPI is online I think) with Scratch and
> other programming tutorials aimed at kids & kid like geeks.
>
> FWIW, Scratch came out of the Logo work & both are MIT projects.
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Kenny Lussier <kluss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> She did do a little with the Hour of Code thing last year, and I had
>> thought that her interest had dropped off after that. Come to find out, she
>> is very much still interested, just discouraged by the lack of exposure in
>> school.
>>
>> I have to say, I have never heard of Scratch. There are a lot of people
>> suggesting it, so I should probably look into it ;-) It looks like a good
>> fundamentals
>>
>> I'm not a coder, so a lot of this is new to me. I'm a scripter. I do
>> bash, some perl, some python... a little bit of LOLCode (no, really, you
>> *CAN* haz VAR!!).  I miss Logo. And Basic.
>>
>> Thanks for all of the advice. I think I'll probably point her at Scratch.
>> and see where she goes with it. If she really does enjoy it, then maybe a
>> Kano is in her future, or possibly a Pi....
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kenny
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Matt Minuti <matt.min...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, did she do any hour of code stuff? That just happened recently, so
>>> perhaps that served as inspiration and could help guide the quest. Or maybe
>>> she just heard the rhetoric around it and thought it would be neat?
>>> On Dec 23, 2015 11:25 AM, "Kenny Lussier" <kluss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> My daughter has expressed an interest in learning to code. It's a
>>>> non-specific, very general interest. She doesn't have a specific area of
>>>> interest that she wants to learn (UI, game development, HPC, etc.), she
>>>> just want to learn how to code.
>>>>
>>>> What do people think is the best language for a 12yr old to learn? What
>>>> is most flexible to use for different purposes? What tools are out there to
>>>> teach a kid to code? Code Academy and the like seem to be a little dry and
>>>> never yielded wonderful results for most of the adults I know, so other
>>>> ideas would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kenny
>>>>
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