On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Adam Williamson <awill...@redhat.com>wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 07:40 +0200, Koppányi Tamás wrote:
> > i am also really hoping that developers wouldfix this. also it would
> > be great if there was better integration for empathy. right now the
> > notification bar icon of empathy is barely cliackable (only the icon,
> > not the text), and while the chat windows stay on the notification
> > bar, but they have no sign that there might be new messages. last time
> > i complained about this i got a reply that after being away from the
> > computer for some time, the notification bar comes up to show you if
> > there was something happening. while this is good, but since empathy
> > windows look all the same if there was something happening or if not,
> > i have to look through each icon manually (click them one by one,
> > since mouseover also doesn't show anything). now this is even a bigger
> > distraction, since because i'm affraid i'll miss some essages, i keep
> > checking the messaging windows constantly, instead of focusing on my
> > work.
>
> Right - we've been through this before, but this is a good way of
> looking at it. Like the others, I find that the current notification
> system does not work well for synchronous chat systems (IRC in my case)
> that are really important: obviously a lot of Fedora work goes through
> IRC so when someone pings me on IRC it really matters, but it's easy to
> miss a transient notification. I've developed a workflow workaround -
> every few minutes I either manually open the notification tray and look
> for the xchat bubble, or alt-tab to the xchat window - but as Koppanyi
> neatly points out, our having to do this is completely destroying the
> concept behind the transient notifications, and we're actually _more_
> distracted than we were before.
> --
> Adam Williamson
> Fedora QA Community Monkey
> IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
> http://www.happyassassin.net


I agree that non-transient notifications have some very important use cases
that Gnome Shell should accommodate for. I don't know the details of the
current notification system, but one approach is to have different
notification levels, allowing for applications to have configurable policies
and for Gnome Shell to implement a UI solution that handles each in a
consistent way. Gnome Shell should be as distraction free as possible (and
desirable for a given user), but no more.

Jesse
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