On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Behdad Esfahbod <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 04/21/2009 03:45 PM, David Bain wrote:
>
>> Is there anything wrong with collecting donations in order to sponsor a
>> single person or organization to implement the site. The Drupal guys
>> have had to raise funds in order to sponsor redesign their own site!
>> http://drupal.org/node/356002 (their target is $15,000).
>>
>
> 1) No one person can do this job,
>
> 2) Sponsoring someone to do it is the wrong approach, as it will start
> falling apart again as soon as the contract is over,
>
> 3) $15,000 can buy a contractor's services for a very short period of time.
> Nothing close to what it takes to get the job done.  What the Drupal guys
> are doing is to raise funds to sponsor sprints.  That is, travel
> reimbursements. No one gets paid to work on it.
>
> We are certainly interested in doing website hackfests.  But in the past,
> there were not enough people (read: 3) to fly to a hackfest to begin with.
>
>
>  I don't know if I speak for everyone, but I'm willing and have been
>> willing to help out but it has come down to whether I can afford the time.
>>
>
> See above.
>
> behdad
>

To add my two cents I agree with Murray in the fact that this is something
simple. The problem is and has always been time. So in a sense I agree with
David as well.. No matter what the chosen technology the problem is one of
time and everyone working on this thus far has only gotten short stints of
time here and there. It's simply not enough to maintain the site.

So my personal feelings aside it's not the technology; it's not like Gnome
can't find people capable of writing html or dealing with Plone or some
other CMS. It's that we need a group of people dedicated to getting an
initial version through with sufficient time to do so. A developer sprint
would be nice but i've tried that on numerous occasion and it hasn't worked.

There simply needs to be a dedicated team with the time to work on the
redesign to completion. If that can't be done, this will lag on until then
and we'll have these discussions every 6 months.

-C
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