You're correct, it is a fine "technical distinction".  I save once and OneDrive 
syncs the file to the cloud.

However, that is not the issue.  The fact that I prematurely click on the "X" 
and the relate dialogue box doesn't work the way it is supposed to is the 
problem. To lessen the chance of this happening again I have changed the 
preferences of the "Auto-save time interval" from 10 minutes to 5 minutes and  
the "Enable timeout on 'Save changes on closing' question" "Time to wait for an 
answer" to 10 seconds. That should save the changes I forgot to save.
[cid:2f3b84fb-236b-40a0-b2c6-a000ec2d4799]


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.pa...@usa.net>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:17 PM
To: 'Gyle McCollam' <gmccol...@live.com>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: RE: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11


>> “The file is both on the hard drive and in the cloud as one drive saves it 
>> to both. “



There is fine technical distinction here when it comes to OneDrive, Google 
Drive or any other type of “cloud” drive.



Unless you specifically save to two different places, possibly first time using 
“Save” option and then saving it again as “Save as” option to a different 
location as two separate events in time that are independent actions from 
within GNC, you are saving it only one time on to your local hard drive. Once 
the data is committed to the drive as part of the save function, the 
application of that “cloud” drive running in the background plays complex 
sequence of events to maintain another copy of that data in the “cloud” and 
upkeep of its content. The other copy of data in the cloud is  kept in 
proprietary format in their own premises.







From: Gyle McCollam <gmccol...@live.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 11:30 AM
To: Kalpesh Patel <kalpesh.pa...@usa.net>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11



The file is both on the hard drive and in the cloud as one drive saves it to 
both.  It works fine when I "Save" it.  I only have this problem if I fail to 
save and the auto save feature has not yet saved it.  I don't use multiple 
computers either.  I'm glad it works in 2.6.21, but it doesn't work on my 
version of Windows 11 GnuCash 4.10.  Other users have responded that they're 
seeing the same issue.  If I let the countdown clock in that same dialogue, go 
to zero, it does save the file without the error message on restart.



Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326                     Mobile

gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>           email

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From: gnucash-user 
<gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail....@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+gylemc=gmail....@gnucash.org>>
 on behalf of Kalpesh Patel 
<kalpesh.pa...@usa.net<mailto:kalpesh.pa...@usa.net>>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 9:47 AM
To: 'gnucash-user' <gnucash-user@gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11



>> The filename suggests you are keeping the file "in the cloud", and if so

>> this (failure to delete the lock file) seems to be expected behaviour,

>> regardless of Windows or Gnucash version.



This may not be correct assumption. The file is on the local hard drive for
sure.



Only way that file would appear back is if he is using it to access the file
from multiple computers or GNC is not removing it.



I employ the same work flow (to Google Drive) but it serves as a backup
purpose as I do not use it on multiple computers and I experience the same
behavior on Windows 10 using GNC 4.10.



This is the modern way of doing things, sadly. They employ various means to
make sure that the "view" of the drive is consistent.







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Subject: Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11

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On 24 April 2022 at 23:18, Gyle McCollam said:



> Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 4.10

>

> Also had this issue in an older version.  Clicked on the "X" to shut down

> and had not saved first.  In the dialogue I clicked on Cancel, but it

> still shutdown.  I expected "Cancel" to cancel the operation (shutdown),

> am I wrong.  What operation is it canceling?  All 3 options have the same

> result,  They all close the program without saving



I'm running 2.6.21 (on Windows10).



Clicking the X, or File->Quit, both produce a dialog offering a choice of



close-without-save, cancel, or save-and-close.



"Cancel" does what I expect: cancels the close operation and returns to

the same state as if I hadn't done File-Quit.



> and upon restart, I got

> the message that "GnuCash could not obtain the lock for

> C:\Users\*****\OneDrive\Documents\GNUCash\**.gnucash."



The filename suggests you are keeping the file "in the cloud", and if so

this (failure to delete the lock file) seems to be expected behaviour,

regardless of Windows or Gnucash version.







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