Hi Jay. You are correct. A placeholder account as simply a "group" that holds other accounts. You can certainly reconcile accounts that are "under" a placeholder account.
On a placeholder account, you can't get the reconcile button because you can't open the transaction list. However, if you use the menu item *Action|Reconcile* for a selected placeholder account, it does open up a window with no transactions. IMHO, *Action|Reconcile* should be disabled if the selected account is a placeholder. Michael On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 10:14 AM Jay Ridgley <jridgl...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > On 10/10/22 08:20, john wrote: > > Please remember to copy the list on all replies. > > > > If you want the Reconcile button (and, contrary to what Robin Chatterjay > wrote, Actions>Reconcile) to be active for your account, make it not a > placeholder. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > > Thank you John, > > What is the purpose of a placeholder then, because on my system that was > not changed for the account in question between 20.04 LTS and 22.04 LTS? > I was under the impression that a placeholder was to allow an account to > be a parent BUT not allow transactions to be posted directly. > > > > > >> On Oct 10, 2022, at 7:56 AM, Jay Ridgley <jridgl...@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Good morning, > >> > >> After some additional research I believe that the ONLY problem is the > grayed out reconcile button. > >> > >> I was confused about the balance showing in the Parent Account, > Placeholder. It shows in the Reconcile Popup window. > >> > >> The ACTUAL trouble is the grayed out Reconcile Button, that first > appeared for me in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS after the upgrade. > >> > >> Since I have found the workaround below, it is a matter of > inconvenience. However it would be preferable to have it as it was in > earlier releases (not grayed out). > >> > >> Regards > >> Jay > >> > >> On 10/9/22 15:49, Jay Ridgley wrote: > >>> Good afternoon, > >>> Up until Ubuntu 22.04 The reconcile button was NOT grayed out for the > type of account I am using (Parent account and Placeholder). I am > including an example of my account structure here: > >>> Banking Account (Parent Account, Placeholder) > >>> Checkbook (sub-account)(contains all checkbook transactions) > >>> Reserve (sub-account) (contains minimum account balance) > >>> Separate Purpose (sub account) (rental income & expenses) > >>> Checkbook Blind (sub-account) (amount held as a pad) > >>> All transactions take place in the sub-accounts. For me it has worked > successfully since I began using GnuCash (over 25 years ago). > >>> I was advised of a workaround that allows me to continue using this > arrangement until it can be fixed/changed to act as it did previously. > >>> It is as follows: > >>> Open Parent account > >>> right click and choose reconcile from the drop down > >>> Works just fine. > >>> Would not be necessary if the Reconcile button was not grayed out. > >>> My question boils down too: Is this change a bug or a "feature" and > can it be put back the way it was? > >>> Please advise how I should proceed. > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jay > >>> On 10/8/22 07:50, David T. wrote: > >>>> That account register doesn't have any transactions in it, so it > won't have any value either. Is it possible that in the past, you used a > report to see the parent account balances, or even the Chart of Accounts? > >>>> > >>>> And if the account in the screen shot is a placeholder account, then > you a) wouldn't be able to open the account by double clicking, b) be told > on selecting Open that it was read only, and c) once opened, the entire > register would be greyed out. The screen shot seems to show a normal > account. It also shows a similarly-named tab next to the active tab. > >>>> > >>>> David T. > >>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Jay Ridgley <jridgl...@austin.rr.com > <mailto:jridgl...@austin.rr.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/7/22 16:38, john wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 12:43 PM, Jay Ridgley > >>>> <jridgl...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Good Morning, > >>>> > >>>> BRAND NEW to the list, have been using GnuCash on my > Ubuntu > >>>> system for over 20 years, this is the first problem I > have > >>>> encountered that I have not been able to resolve. > >>>> > >>>> I discovered that the balance amount that should appear > in a > >>>> the parent account for my bank is missing. Therefore I am > >>>> unable to do this month's reconcile. > >>>> > >>>> The account was proper last month, and I was able to > balance > >>>> my checkbook successfully. In the meantime I upgraded to > >>>> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS from 20.04 LTS every thing seems to > running > >>>> properly, otherwise, including GnuCash. > >>>> > >>>> Today when I tried to reconcile my bank account I > discovered > >>>> the amount of the balance is missing and the reconcile > >>>> button is grayed out(naturally since nothing shows). > >>>> > >>>> All the sub accounts point to the parent account and > when I > >>>> list my accounts the balance appears there and is > correct. > >>>> > >>>> What happened and how can I get it back? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Can you attach (don't inline!) a screenshot of the problem? > It's > >>>> not clear from your description what balance is missing and > what > >>>> button is disabled. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> John Ralls > >>>> > >>>> John, > >>>> > >>>> Sorry it took so long... > >>>> The account shown is the parent and the Balance should NOT be > blank, but > >>>> the sum of 4 account balances. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Jay > >>>> > >> > >> -- > >> Jay Ridgley > >> jridgley2 at austin.rr.com > >> Registered Linux User ID - 9115 > >> https://linuxcounter.net/cert/9115.png > >> Registered Ubuntu User ID - 23320 > >> > > > > -- > Jay Ridgley > jridgley2 at austin.rr.com > Registered Linux User ID - 9115 > https://linuxcounter.net/cert/9115.png > Registered Ubuntu User ID - 23320 > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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