> On Jul 16, 2023, at 15:52, Bruce Schuck <bsch...@asgard-systems.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello again,
> 
> At some point I am going to take a break from F::Q, I thought this weekend I 
> was going to escape.
> 
> ### For the question, skip to the next ###
> 
> Anyway, some time ago the issue was raised about prices from AlphaVantage for 
> LSE traded stocks (see 
> https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote/issues/281). While there is an 
> issue, the user's perceived solution was not the answer. Apparently my 
> attempt to explain that the root cause was that the data returned from the AV 
> "GLOBAL_QUOTE" API did *NOT* contain the currency used for the pricing 
> returned.
> 
> What the AV module does is assign a currency based on the suffix of the 
> lookup symbol. So stocks like GBP.L and GBPG.L get mapped to GBP. The problem 
> is that GBP.L (Global Petroleum Limited) is traded in GBX (aka GBp) and 
> GBPG.L (Goldman Sachs Access UK Gilts 1-10) is traded in GBP. But the AV 
> module as written cannot differentiate since the currency used is not part of 
> the data. Stocks from South Africa have a similar issue.
> 
> Needless to say, since I was not ready to dig into the root cause and not 
> wanting to remove the fix that was meant to convert GBp pricing to GBP 
> pricing based solely on the symbol's suffix, the user decided to go on a rant 
> and throw a tantrum in the comments and had to be blocked from the 
> Finance::Quote repository.
> 
> ### Question here ###
> 
> The currency for the trades can be gotten from AV, but an additional call 
> using the "SYMBOL_SEARCH" API is necessary. Obviously this would impact the 
> throttling limitation of AlphaVantage. For non-US stocks, this means that 
> including an additional currency lookup an average of 2.5 securities can be 
> fetched per minute. I am curious how many of you all use AV for non-US traded 
> securities? Has the pricing discrepancy affect you, and would you want it 
> corrected even though that means increasing retrieval time due to the extra 
> API usage?

It's not all non-US securities. In AlphaVantage it appears to be only LSE 
stocks; JSE stocks aren't supported and Tel Aviv stocks support only ILS. The 
Yahoo JSON module adjusts prices for Zac (South Africa) and ILA (Israel) as 
well as GBX, but Yahoo JSON apparently includes a currency code to make that 
easy. That seems to be missing from YahooWeb, perhaps an oversight on Vincent's 
part. The currency is available on https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/GBP.L 
prefixed by "Currency In" in div id="quote-header-info <>".

So for AlphaVantage it seems only .L and .IL suffix securities would need to be 
queried, and maybe only .L unless there are known instances where .IL-suffixed 
symbols are priced in GBP.

Rather than spending an extra query maybe AlphaVantage.pm could accept a 
special extra suffix indicating that the user wants quotes to be multiplied by 
100, perhaps X, so a request for GBP.L priced in GBP would be GBP.L.X.

Alternatively we could create a GBX, ZAX, and ILA pseudo-currencies in GnuCash 
and users would create parent accounts in those currencies for stocks quoted 
that way. That would take a little finessing on users' part because using it 
would depend both on the currency the stock is quoted in and whether F::Q 
converts it to the "real" currency.

Regards,
John Ralls



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