I don't like the use of the old gorm icon. On Monday, December 30, 2013, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> Hi all, > > I guess everybody knows, and also agrees that the GNUstep website is > looking fairly dated, and that > finding contents in it, is somtetimes only possible with help of google. > the last few days I spent on thinking about the website, what it may need, > digging html5 and css3, > and came up with the following design, that you can find here: > > https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index7.html > > Note, not all pages and links are "implemented". I did not wanted to waste > too much time, in case, the > majority of people doesn't like with what I've come up. > > Older revisions, that finally lead to the design I have now, can be seen > here: > https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index3.html > https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index5.html > https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index6.html > > The major design goals of the page are: > * have a half way modern look, but don't overdo > * easy and logical menu structuring, it should be easy to find things > following a logic > > Further Ideas and things I had considered while designing were: > > Intended main audience: > > * MAC Developers seeking to port their apps to other platforms > * Developers from other platforms, seeking to base their projects, > commercial or free, on GNUstep > * Packagers, that want to package GNUstep for their favourite > OS/Distribution > > Not intended main audience, but also welcomed: > * End users of any kind > * direct End users to the pages to GWorkspace or SystemPreferences, > Example applications, and screenshots > * otherwise, direct end users to GAP and maybe other external sites > > Why chose the main audience above? > * GNUstep is a set of libraries, providing an API to be used by > developers > * libraries are accompanied by a set of development tools > * GWorkspace and SystemPreferences are nice show cases for developers > that want to get to know what they can get from GNUstep > > General design goals of the page: > * Its generally intended to attract the main intended audience > * have a modern look and feel, but keep the page simple > * page should work with recent modern browsers > * making use of modern HTML5 and CSS3 > * page may look a bit odd with old browsers (this likely includes SWK ;) > * but who is really using a browser that does not understand HTML5/CSS3, > or at least a subset of it? Even Google doesn't support old browsers. > * simple wording, short and clear sentences > * simple page structure, simulating the MAC Desktop > * main menu (the dock at the bottom on every page) > * always all the time visible > * horizontal menu on the top dependent on what's chosen > from the dock at the bottom > * the icon on the left shows which menu entry was chosen from the dock > at the bottom > Some more specific design decisions are based on: > * design of the contents of the homepage: > * do not overload with information or images, the page should > load fast ;) > * address the most interesting questions someone looking for > GNUstep might have with links to the right subpages > * generally inspired from www.gtk.org > * Footer/Dock: > * show some modern CSS tricks, hopefully giving the > (right) impression of GNUstep being modern too > * mostly white background > * white looks "clean" > * but if there are better suggestions, and a different > background color can be agreed on, then it should be ;) > * horizontal top menu is inspired by www.apple.com > * make Mac developers feel at home > * its simple, looking nice > * no submenus, but having submenus there, if agreed on, > can easily be added, see an "older" incarnation of the > design: https://www.l00-bugdead-prods.de/index3.html > * the icon on the left is the same as the one clicked > at the bottom, in order to signal where the user currently is > * grey color in the horizontal menu on the top, > and other elements > * GNUstep apps are grey, or maybe in the future that > will (hopefully) change when another theme gets > included in GUI, but the color is chosen in reference > to the GUI apps and history to NeXT > * but if there are other suggestions for coloring the > menu and other elements, and it can be agreed on, then > it should be ;) > * text alignment is "justified" > * differentiate external links: those are marked with icon > * News box on front page: > * shows news on, releases, hackathons, papers, etc. > * shows there is live in the community > * New pages: hackathons page and papers page: > * show there is live in the community > * show there is fun in the community > * make use of SSIs, to ease updating, at least for the > top menu, and the dock at the bottom, and for example > the news box on the front page > * The screenshot pages should show off more Themes to > underline GNUsteps flexibility in the look 'n feel > > Design ideas inspired by: > * Footer: MAC OS X dock > * horizontal top menu: www.apple.com > * main page: www.gtk.org > * screenshot gallery: www.gtk.org > > Main Menu structure (the dock at the bottom) > * About GNUstep > * about the project, and all other advocacy related stuff > * Software > * information about what the software is that the project offers > * Development > * any kind of information for developers about the software > * review the Who's who page, move long inactive project members > to an own section at the bottom, add new members not listed there. > * Get Help > * any sort of general documentation, FAQ or HOWTO, bugtracker, etc. on > how to install/use GNUstep > * big part of this is to review the GNUstep HOWTO, > flesh out old/outdated cruft > * review the number of mailinglists, and their usefulness > * Related sites > * links to GNUstep sites, i.e. savannah project site, wiki. > * link to other affiliated site, i.e. GAP, Etoile, Quantum-Step > * Full Menu structure: > * Homepage (IS THERE) > * About GNUstep (IS THERE) > * Project Goals (IS THERE) > * Screenshots (IS THERE) > * Papers > * History > * Success Stories > * Software (IS THERE EMPTY) > * Core Libraries > * Development Tools (IS THERE) > * ProjectCenter (IS THERE) > * Gorm (IS THERE) > * Other Libraries > * GNUstep Desktop > * Download > * Development (IS THERE EMPTY) > * Libraries Map > * Development Docs > * Theming > * Testfarm > * Hackathons > * Who's who? > * Get Help (IS THERE EMPTY) > * FAQ/Howto > * Mailing Lists > * Bugtracker > * Project Wiki > * Related Sites (IS THERE EMPTY) > * GNUstep Sites > * External Sites > > * As a project from developers, for developers, let's focus > on the fun of developing, showing off i.e. hackathons, the > one like in Cambridge, AlpenStep, etc. > * have a page showing off presentations done by project > members about GNUstep (and related topics), i.e. FOSDEM > slides, and others. This shows off that the project is alive. > > Please bear in mind, I'm not a web developer, more or less > everything of the design is open for discussion. > But I'd hope that the majority of people like the general design, > and could live with it ;) > Defining different colors, or exchanging icons, or menu entries, > etc. that should be easy ;) > > cheers, > Sebastian > > > > PS: Some other more general ideas, independent to the > Website design, so please when you answer on those, > create a new subject: > > > > * Make a GNUstep maintained FAQ the main source of general > documentation and answers on how to get things running > (the wiki is just a big bad mess ;) > > * Make GAP use the same, or similar design, to show off > the tight relationship between GNUstep and GAP. > * Redirect potential end users to GAP, and from GAP > redirect developers to GNUstep ( -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) http://www.gnustep.org http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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