If the consensus is to move to github, then that work is basically already done. The github mirror is a full mirror of all of the code in subversion. I agree with David. Where we are hosted is extremely important since it has everything to do with visibility.
The only problem I am seeing with moving is that we may lose some existing contributors or, at least, piss off some existing contributors if we do make a move to github. Additionally, as one might predict, the FSF doesn't like github. So a move to github not only amounts to a move of repos, but I'm afraid it's also the equivalent of a fork which is not something I'm opposed to talking about. GC On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:42 AM David Chisnall <thera...@sucs.org> wrote: > On 29 May 2015, at 00:27, Stefan Bidigaray <stefanb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So, reading everyone's reply I get the impression that feel that GIT > really isn't all that great if you're not using it with a more powerful > host like GitHub. Is this true? I've only ever used SVN and CVS, and only > ever committed to GNUstep, so my experience here is very limited. My only > opinion here is that if we're going to move to a new versioning systems, > that we move to at least a more powerful one. I like how simple SVN is (it > doesn't get any easier than 'svn co svn:// > svn.gna.org/svn/gnustep/modules/dev-libs'), but understand that it comes > at a price. Learning a new, more powerful tool is not a problem but > learning a new, more complicated tool that offers the same or less > capabilities will be very frustrating. > > Git certainly benefits from good tools. GitX on OS X is very nice for > preparing commits and browsing the history (a GNUstep port would be nice…), > but it doesn’t necessarily need all of the infrastructure of a decent host. > > I use git with personal repos that I host myself (I migrated these all > from svn recently - backups are now easier, as git clone is easier to work > with than svnsync), some hosted by our university hosting service (pretty > bare bones) and GitHub. There are several advantages of GitHub: > > - Integrated code review tools (I can’t understate how valuable these are) > > - Integration with CI systems (Étoilé uses the GitHub-provided Travis CI) > > - A real community of potential new developers. I’ve had patches sent to > me via GitHub on some projects that I created for personal use and never > publicised. Again, I can’t understate how important this is. > > - A choice of VCSs with the same repo (I can do svn co of my GitHub repos, > if I want). > > - Automatic tarball generation. When I’m packaging a project for FreeBSD, > it makes me very happy to learn that it’s hosted on GitHub, because if I > know the release branch name or hash I can automatically generate a URL > that is a tarball of the sources and tell the port to grab that for > building. When I’m doing a release of something GitHub-hosted, then it’s > trivial: create a tag and you’re done. We’ve recently moved the public > CHERI repo to GitHub precisely because it’s the easiest way of generating > tarballs from a repo. > > - Integrated bug tracker (as in, properly integrated - I can close bugs > from commit messages, they’re not just hosted in the same place) and wiki. > > - Web hosting with Jekyll support. Jekyll generates static HTML from a > set of transforms and is the perfect CMS for web sites stored in a VCS. > I’m now using it for my own stuff, with some of it hosted on GitHub and > some not. > > > As for the move to Savannah, I think it's been long overdue. It has > offered everything GNUstep needs for quite a long time. And having all the > development stuff (bug tracker, source code, etc) in one place has some > obvious advantages. That being said, if we move to another source code > hosting site, lets pick one that can also serve all out needs instead of > trying to piecemeal it ourselves. > > If what GNUstep needs is a host that most potential developers don’t have > an account on (and won’t think to look at), conveys the impression that > we’re a dead project, and adds more barriers to entry for new developers > then, indeed, Savannah does everything that GNUstep needs. > > David > > > > > -- Sent from my Cray X1 > >
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