I think I will agree with Nuno. Portugal enriched itself with spices early in time more than it did in more recent times. It benefited mostly due to trade. It did not rob Goa and its people of anything like others did. And it developed the place quite well then. The British pillaged more stuff from India like gold, diamonds and other precious stones, tea, etc. The Spanish were terrible, it was mostly gold and silver from their South American possessions that impoverished these nations. The French were worse, besides all the above, they have signed contracts with places like Haiti to have the colonies pay for damages to the slave owning colonisers! They are still paying a 1825 debt today, no wonder they are bankrupt. Being born in Angola and grown up in Goa too, life in Portuguese colonies was different from those of other European powers then. In Angola were we lived it was paradise and the black people had also equal rights and quality of life. No discrimination like the British did in India and the French and Spanish did elsewhere. One of the major contributions to Goa, the amazing drainage system, was destroyed by these BJP corrupt politicians who invent new ways to swindle the population. India needs to do reparations to Goa for the damage it is doing to the state and for the money it is robbing its people. Modern colonisers. JP ________________________________ From: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> Sent: 26 April 2024 07:56 To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal
Yes, throughout the centuries Portugal comitted crimes. Just like every other country on Earth. But we also helped to build. Without Portugal there would be no Goan State in India, and Goans would be a lot different, not necessarily better. Without Portugal there wouldn't be a great nation such as Brazil. There wouldn't be a great Angolan state, with a strong sense of identity, with a prosperous economy built on much of what Portugal built over four and a half centuries. There wouldn't have been a tolerant Timorese nation, so different from Indonesia. There wouldn't have been a marvellously mixed nation such a Cape Verde, where the colour of skin is completely irrelevant. We took a lot away from those countries, but I believe we gave back a lot more than we took. No reparations are needed. Nuno Cardoso da Silva Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:56 AM From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> To: "Goa-Research-Net" <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> Subject: [GRN] Antonio Costa and Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, the president of Portugal The Portugal’s president, Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, expressed some opinions at an event with foreign journalists on Tuesday . ( In the month in which 50 years of democracy in Portugal - 25/04/2024) He said António Costa, former prime-minister, son of a Goan, as someone reflective, the result of eastern ancestry, while Luís Montenegro, the new prime-minister, is “completely different”. The head of state did not fail to analyze himself in this aspect. “I’m a hurried Westerner,” he defined. The statement about Montenegro came when he explained how he saw the change of Government ahead of schedule. “He [Luís Montenegro] is a person who comes from a deep, urban-rural country, with rural behaviors. He is very curious, difficult to understand, precisely because of this. Marcelo added that he “would be happy” and accustomed to António Costa's governance until 2026, but the dissolution of Parliament was necessary given his resignation as prime minister and secretary-general of the Socialist Party (PS). In the interview with foreign journalists, the President of Portugal, Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa declared late on Tuesday that Portugal was responsible for crimes committed during transatlantic slavery and the colonial era, indicating a necessity for reparations. https://www.dn.pt/6486274197/marcelo-faz-analises-e-comparacoes-entre-costa-e-luis-montenegro/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/24/portugal-pay-costs-slavery-colonialism-president -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/1915337766.2997014.1714042569480%40mail.yahoo.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/1915337766.2997014.1714042569480%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-c444c6a8-d766-468e-afff-4e5d47961a8f-1714118190630%403c-app-mailcom-bs01<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-c444c6a8-d766-468e-afff-4e5d47961a8f-1714118190630%403c-app-mailcom-bs01?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/GV2P195MB21614569A6E254DEAC59937382162%40GV2P195MB2161.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
