Stevan, While I share your concern that the primary focus needs to be on enhancing open access to scholarly research--and that it can be easy to let bells-and-whistles distract us from that core mission--I frankly don't trust Google Scholar to "solve" all our access-and-discovery issues and believe that work on cross-repository discovery tools is actually an important piece of ensuring that OA has the largest possible impact on society.
Given my own experiences working with the folks at Google to ensure our repository was "properly" indexed in Google Scholar, I can tell you that, while it has had massive benefits for us in terms of increased traffic, it has also exposed limitations and blind spots in Google's policies. If anything, Google Scholar's indexing is more opaque than their WWW indexing, particular their inclusion/exclusion requirements, but also their relative weighting of OA versions of content as opposed to subscriber-only and/or PPV versions. As just a small example, our repository, which hosts only research outputs, has over 8,000 items in it, yet even after months of back-and-forth with the team at Google they still only index some 4,700 of those in Google Scholar. Why? Because they purposefully exclude datasets, video of conference presentations (though they're happy to take the "proceedings" versions), and so on. Moreover, why, once a user comes to our site from Google Scholar, should they not be presented with the option of seeing OA content from outside Columbia? If your concern is "empty" repositories, then why shouldn't we seek to leverage the work (and success) of others and, at the same time, provide better access to OA scholarship to the broader community? Cross-discovery could enrich small collections and provide additional, local incentives to OA for scholars at campuses where there is not the same groundswell of support for OA. Further, as initiatives like ORCID (Open Researcher and Contributor ID) begin to get off the ground, there are opportunities for repositories to play a key role in ensuring that these consortial efforts help us to further the goals of the OA movement by enhancing the accessibility of OA content and not just that of commercial publishers and content providers. As the transformation of the PIRUS (Publisher and Institutional Repository Usage Statistics) Project into IRUS demonstrates, publishers and other commercial content providers continue to (by-and-large) be driven by bottom-line considerations (the PIRUS2 report makes this very clear). Therefore, it is in the interests of the OA movement as a whole to ensure a robust--and open--ecosystem of discovery paths exist for OA content. Sincerely, Rob ------------------------------ Robert Hilliker, PhD, MLIS Digital Repository Manager Center for Digital Research and Scholarship Columbia University 201 Lehman Library International Affairs Building 420 West 118th Street New York, NY 10027 Tel.: 212-851-7339 E-mail: rhilli...@columbia.edu Web site: http://academiccommons.columbia.edu Twitter: @ResearchatCU On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Stevan Harnad wrote: > CHEER-LEADING, CHALLENGES AND REALITY > > What is missing and needed is not "awesome repositories cross-search tools." > > What is missing and needed is OA repository deposits, and OA deposit > mandates. > > The repositories are mostly empty. > > And Google Scholar finds what OA content there is -- wherever it is on the > web -- incomparably better than "awesome repositories cross-search tools." > > Here is just a sample vanity search on a relatively uncommon name (try your > own): > > Awesome repositories cross-search tool: Harnad 140 hits > Google Scholar: Harnad 15,900 hits (author:Harnad: 1,010 hits) > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "SPARC OA Forum" group. > To post to this group, send email to sparc-oafo...@arl.org > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > sparc-oaforum+unsubscr...@arl.org > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/a/arl.org/group/sparc-oaforum
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