Hi all,

Jessica is right, the number of PURE instances as PUBLIC repositories are still low, but probably the number of them as CLOSED CRIS managers is probably higher (although still not very large). The problem is there is a tendency to use CRIS (managed by burocrats) instead of OA IRs (managed by librarians) as commercial people is selling systems like PURE also as good repository managers. In my personal view PURE design is greenOA killer as deposit it is not its primary aim (not required).

Why authors are supporting the move to PURE? Probably the same reason they are depositing far more in ResearchGate or Academia than in the GreenOA IRs: Ugly interfaces, no profiles, useless metrics, ...

Your turn,


On 18/05/2016 15:01, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:
Thank you for checking this.

However, numbers do not tell the whole story. Elsevier, Thomson-Reuters, Springer, etc... behave strategically. Like good military leaders, they constantly try and test to see what sticks and works. For the moment, Pure's presence is small, but the parent company learns through this limited presence, and it obviously studies ways to make it more appealing to the repository community.

This reminds me of ScholarOne as deployed by Thomson-Reuters. Scielo-Brazil had trouble marking its articles in a suitable XML format, and did it largely by hand. When Scielo did all it could to be included in the Web of Science, they were also "offered" the use of Scholar One. Now their work flow is dependent upon this software tool to such an extent that moving out of Scholar One will be very costly.

This reminds me also of the recent report by the NSF which, for the first time, relies on Scopus rather than the Web of Science. Elsevier is getting closer to the the old dream first entertained by Robert Maxwell when he tried to coax the Science Citation Index out of Eugene Garfield's hands, so as to be both judge and party in the evaluation of journals. Reading how they gloat about this is also instructive: https://www.elsevier.com/connect/tracking-progress-in-us-science-and-engineering .

We, in the OA community, have been rather naive about the ways in which power works and how it it is wielded. We had better wise up, and fast.

But thank you again, Jessica, for doing the checking.

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Le mercredi 18 mai 2016 à 12:08 +0000, Jessica Lindholm a écrit :
Hi Ross (et al.), Out of curiosity I had to check the amount of Pure instances as you mentioned that many institutional repositories run on Pure. Checking openDOAR’s registry of repositories (http://www.opendoar.org/) I find 16 PURE-repositories listed, whereas e.g. Eprints has +400 instances and DSpace has +1300 instances. However I am not at all sure to what degree openDOAR is containing exhaustive data (or rather I am quite sure it doesn’t) -it is either lacking data about PURE instances – or if not, I do not agree that they are many.. Regards Jessica Lindholm *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On Behalf Of *Ross Mounce *Sent:* den 17 maj 2016 22:54 *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org> *Subject:* Re: [GOAL] Re : Re: SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Elsevier have actually done a really good job of infiltrating institutional repositories too: http://rossmounce.co.uk/2013/01/25/elseviers-growing-monopoly-of-ip-in-academia/

They bought Atira back in 2012 which created PURE which is the software that many of world's institutional repositories run on. I presume it reports back all information to Elsevier so they can further monetise academic IP. Best, Ross On 17 May 2016 at 21:22, Joachim SCHOPFEL <joachim.schop...@univ-lille3.fr <mailto:joachim.schop...@univ-lille3.fr>> wrote:
    Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories
    worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional
    repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ?
    Better solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more
    efficient, better connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals
etc.
    ----- Mail d'origine ----- De: Stevan Harnad
    <amscifo...@gmail.com <mailto:amscifo...@gmail.com>> À: Global
    Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal@eprints.org
    <mailto:goal@eprints.org>> Envoyé: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:18
+0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier Shame on SSRN. Of course we know exactly why Elsevier acquired SSRN (and Mendeley):
    It's to retain their stranglehold over a domain (peer-reviewed
    scholarly/scientific research publishing) in which they are no
    longer needed, and in which they would not even have been able to
    gain as much as a foothold if it had been born digital, instead
of being inherited as a legacy from an obsolete Gutenberg era.
    I don't know about Arxiv (needless centralization and its
    concentrated expenses are always vulnerabe to faux-benign
    take-overs) but what's sure is that the distributed network of
    Green institutional repositories worldwide  is not for sale, and
that is their strength... Stevan Harnad
    On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bo-Christer Björk
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<mailto:bo-christer.bj...@hanken.fi>> wrote:
        This is an interesting news item which should interest the
        readers of this list. Let's hope arXiv is not for sale.
Bo-Christer Björk
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