As usual, Gilbert is again choosing to obfuscate the the fundamental issues at hand. When confronted with facts of catholic churches having being built on temples, the topic was changed to whether churches were built next to destroyed temples.
Gilbert was asked to back up his allegations made against Tariq and he has yet again provided no clear answer to it. The revisionist campaign has now moved on to Tipu Sultan and the allegation of atrocities committed by his army against (the still large and thriving) Goan catholics in Manglore. The fact is that there is much in dispute on what Tipu Sultan did or did not do. Many belonging to the hindu right do share Gilbert's opinion of Tipu Sultan. The alternate opinion is that he was very tolerant of hindus and supported the reconstruction of old hindu temples and had many hindu princes in his goverment. One fact that is very clear is that Tipu Sultan's forces were heavily armed and supported by the (catholic) French. Without their support, it is questionable if Tipu would have been able to take on the British and the regional powers for as long as he did. For those who are not aware, the French were at that time competing with the British to establish themselves in India. With regards to the alleged "massacre" of the christians in Manglore, there is no doubt that he used force quell the christian community there. Manglore had been under his domain for a long time and was never subject to religious subjugation either by him or his father for many decades of their rule. The reason for his eventual attack was because it the catholics in Manglore sensed they could get special favors from the British and decided to switch sides. Kind of reminds me of the musical chair politics that takes place in Goa. Jokes aside, it is clear that his French backed army did not target them because of their religion. His response was therefore quite logical (though harsh) considering he was fighting for his very existance. In the end, he was defeated and killed by the British, which resulted in the door finally being opened to British rule in south. Marlon --- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gilbert Lawrence: > "All their (Manglorean former Goan Catholics) lands, > goods and personal > property were confiscated and given away to loyal > subjects. Their > churches were destroyed and many of the stones were > used to build > mosques and other monuments." Wonder how often Tariq > has railed against > this episode in Goan history - the ultimate revision > of the history of > Goans. > > Santosh: > As far as I know, Tariq has never railed against > anything in Goan > history. There is no virtue in claiming that one's > own religious bigots > killed less number of people than someone else's > religious bigots, let > alone doing it by using unsubstantiated and > fabricated facts. If one > wants to revise history to feel good about one's > past, one can certainly > do it better by not taunting others. > > Gilbert Lawrence: > Regards: "As far as I know, Tariq has never railed > against anything in > Goan > History". Your memory is either short and/or your > historical facts are > convenient. The point: there are all kinds of bigots > including yours and > mine. ########################################################################## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##########################################################################