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http://bmxgoa.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi, I wonder where the this thread is leading to. The subject line seems to be forgotten as it says, can a Christian be a communist? Can he or can’t he? As far as I know, communism is not a religion but a form of Government. If a communist can be democrat than he can also be a communist isn’t it? See we have former Russia as communist country but they are orthodox Christians. If China has banned Christianity, does it mean, there are no Christians in China? I believe they have underground churches for their worship, and gradually its opening for that too, with many embracing Islam too. According to Karl Marx the favourite quoted communist of Vidyadhar Gadgiland Friedrich Engels, The theory of communism may be summed up in one sentence : Abolish all private property. According to another deffination, “The theory which teaches that the labor and the income of society should be distributed equally among all its members by some constituted authority. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Can a Christian be a Communist? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" <goanet@lists.goanet.org> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Usually I avoid getting into these debates because > they drag on endlessly and the noise levels are > high, i.e. there is not much useful content. > Mario observes: > Vidhyadhar, Good idea. When one cannot stand the heat it is far better to claim the moral high ground and exit the kitchen. > Vidhydhar writes: > > One point here, why do we accept 'godless' in its > pejorative sense as a word of abuse? If 'godless' > means being an atheist, what's wrong with > that? > Mario responds: > Vidhyadhar, this is called building a straw man and then jousting with him. No one other than yourself has used "godless" as a pejorative. It was simply used as a descriptive. Unless you have followed this debate you would know that no one said that there was anything wrong with being an atheist if that is what you want to be. There are NO consequences on this earth and you are welcome to take your chances thereafter. > Since you seem to have missed the crux of the matter, the point that was made and widely misunderstood by the anti-religious faction on Goanet is that we have no way of knowing what moral code is being followed by each and every unorganzied individual out there. Instead, one self appointed spokesman for all atheists took umbrage at this and demanded that we agree that all atheists had developed admirable moral codes because they had engaged in serious independent study and research and deep introspection. We never learned how he would know what everyone else had done. > Vidhyadhar writes: > > Why do atheists come in for so much abuse on > Goanet? > Mario observes: > A second straw man in the same post. Since this post seems to have eluded you completely how do we convince you that it was the religious types that came in for abuse? To understand this you would have to go back and read everything from the beginning. I'm not sure you are up to such "serious independent study and research and deep introspection." > Vidhyadhar writes: > > As Santosh Helekar and others have repeatedly > pointed out, belief in a God or religion often has > only peripheral overlap with having a good code and > practice of ethics and conduct. And if you believe > in a God, fine, it's your opinion, but why do > people get so excited and upset about people who > don't? > Mario asks: > Is this a third straw man or a straw woman mate of one of the other two? No matter. The only people who got excited were the anti-religious types who took umbrage with a simple observation as I have outlined above. Besides, isn't it you who asks us on behalf of Karl Marx in every post to "Question everything?" Apparently I took this more seriously than you do. And I'm the one who thinks that this is the ONLY sensible thing that old Karl ever said in public. Funny thing is that HE did not follow his own advice either:-)) > Viodhyadhar writes: > > So, yeah, put me down as a 'godless commie' on the > same page, no problems :-) > -- > Question everything -- Karl Marx > Mario adds: > OK. You replace Aristo on the "Godless commie" list. > BTW, there is only one list. As I explained to Aristo, "Godless" and Commie" go together like white on rice. 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