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5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest
Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa
16-18, May 2008
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html
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--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is where I can be found on the same side
> as Gadgil and Rajan, but I want economic development
> to continue, but only in a manner that fits the Goan
> history, culture, ambience and environment.
>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Agree with Gadgil and Rajan? Gadgil's (personally, I
love the man), positions are always in complete
concurrence with positions of the Community party of
India. Anti-modernization, anti-privatisation,
anti-globalisation and anti-west. Rajan, is presently
in consultation with the Chinese to build another
Great Wall around Goa.
>
Mario responds:
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With "love" like yours, Gadgil does not need any
enemies:-)) Besides, I am not aware of anything
called the Community party of India. Is this
something Gadgil has started?
>
I see you are still doggedly trying to deflect the
discussion and distort the facts - but we have your
number by now. Besides, Gadgil also has you pegged as
the Queen of the Red Herrings who will say almost
anything to obfuscate a discussion, as we are also
seeing in your comments here.
>
Where I stand with Gadgil and Rajan is in their effort
to STOP the ugly developments, many approved through
fraudulent and corrupt means, because this would give
someone with more than half a brain in Goa a chance to
implement local zoning laws. Once the ugly
developments are built or hillsides denuded, nothing
can be done.
>
You, on the other hand, support the status quo that
has produced the mess in the first place, want to cut
out the local villagers directly affected by the ugly
developments, and do not have a single sensible or
workable suggestion on how to address the problem.
>
Selma wrote:
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What is really worrying me is your endorsement of
Wendell's pie-in-the-sky ideas for Goa. Is this the
best Goa has to offer in terms of economic
intelligentsia? One singer, who wants to turn Goa into
a state parK, bring out the rhinos right now, and a
dress-marker who wants the clock turned back on Goan
villages making them 16th century feudal estates.
>
Mario observes:
>
Here we see more diversionary comments supporting the
status quo and personally insulting those who are
trying to stem the rot in Goa, without offering a
single sensible or workable suggestion on how to
address the problem. In the meantime, besides trying
to insult Wendell, whose dresses you probably could
not afford to buy, you have nothing to say about his
very specific and practical suggestions.
>
In a previous post you wrote, "I don't mean to
undermine the work carried out by activists in halting
the devastation of Goa. Nor do I presume to understand
what the need of the hour is in Goa."
>
You were absolutely right in your second sentence
above as you are proving with every subsequent post,
while you are also proving you did not mean a word you
said in your first sentence.
>
Selma wrote:
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Who decides what's elitist and what's not in a
democracy? Will the housing needs of local people be
resolved if this project is shelved? Or do these needs
warrant addressal separate from this issue?
>
Mario observes:
>
Once again you are
>
a) demonstrating that you do not "....understand what
the need of the hour is in Goa", because most of the
ugly developments are not addressing the "housing
needs of the local people", and,
>
b) you are also demonstrating that you have not
understood a word I have written, which is that
development should continue, as long as it is done in
a manner that is compatible with the history, culture,
architecture and environment which would preserve
Goa's unique ambience.
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