From: "Santosh Helekar" <chimbel...@yahoo.com>
<<<I congratulate Mario on a lucid exposition of his faith-based beliefs, as well as a clear understanding of an absolute separation between science and religion, and of the scope and limits of both. I would recommend this type of clarity of thought to everybody.

--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Mario Goveia <mgov...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Once I have accepted certain core beliefs based on certain
circumstantial evidence, the rest is based on faith, without
any objective scientific proof in either history or
science.

Yes, if you want to know something for sure or within a
certain rational probability. Otherwise it's all
speculation and conjecture.
***There is "rational probability" also in the Revealed Religion. Religion has its reasons to believe. Therefore, the reality behind it is within 'rational probability".
I know at least three atheists who do a lot of good for
poor people who do not believe in God or Jesus, as well as
hundreds of non-Christians who do not believe that Jesus is
the son of God.
***I do not believe that human being can do good without God's Grace. It does not mean that there is no effort on the part of human beings, nor that the law is not in human hearts. But we human beings need education. If everything is in the 'evolutionary growth of morality', why do we need research in ethics, in development of ethics, eductional processes?

The Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the
Mount make conventional common sense. They need no
scientific proof.
***The teaching of Jesus is given to humanity. My point is precisely that there is no "scientific-empirical proof" for every tenet of Religion, but there is historical evidence to the factual events...
Regards.
Fr.Ivo





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