Dear Soter,

It appears from your post reproduced below that you are learning to spew venom 
like Mr. Parrikar does on this forum. The nasty way of writing may be 
characteristic to Mr Parrikar, and however proud he may be of that, It also is 
a reflection of his crass mentality and self upbringing. It would be unoriginal 
as well as image lowering to follow his writing style.

I'd also like to ask If you could please also equate me with 'bleading heart' 
Fredrick in support for the migrant scrap dealers. The street scrap dealers no 
doubt, do business on public space, but in turn they do a lot of service to the 
state. First, they pick up waste from householders and shopkeepers at their 
doorstep at NO fee. Some even pay the stores for the things they take. They 
considerably reduce the civic authorities waste collection quantum which would 
otherwise go into open dumps around goa. Today, (and since 2006) Panaji's 
ENTIRE recycling initiative is run by about 30 'migrant scrap dealers' at St. 
inez and Campal who work for free (and supposedly pay a 10-20K monthly kickback 
to corrupt civic authorities to keep their jobs). Send them home and Panaji 
will cripple to a standstill in a fortnight.

And another thing, soter, It's not only 'migrants'. There are a few Goans 
involved too. For an example, there's Proto Rodrigues of Caranzalem. You may 
verify by calling him at 9822386627 and ask him about his job. While you are at 
it, ask him how many Goans he's employed in his workforce, and why cant he 
employ any more? You probably know the answer anyway.

The Gaddas near National Theatre were illegal squatters that did nothing for 
the city. They only set shop illegally, and tapped electricity from the 
Governmnent building adjacent to the Gaddas. They were also known for hosting a 
number of Matka agents, an banned sport of gambiling. and I know that they were 
given rehabilitation at the Municipal Market once they were removed. Why should 
one get a free space at the Muncipal market if one was operating illegally is a 
question I'ld like CCP to answer. Lastly, none of those Gaddas, (nor any gadda 
or handcart in Panaji) pays a paisa for their waste to be picked up by CCP. 
Enough said.

I compost half my waste at home, and recycle the rest. While I compost in a 
compost unit located in my verandah, I store all my recycalbles in storage bins 
in my backyard. Recycling at my home happens once every three months only 
because 'migrant scrap dealers' help me in recycling. As my village panchayat 
does not have any facility for waste management I use these self created 
soloutons to solve my problems in an environmentally friendly way. Of course I 
can't recycle everything. It takes me a month to collect a plastic bagfull of 
material that's not compostable nor recyclable, and that I take to the 
municipal authorities nearby bin. In this way we reduce more than 85% of our 
waste from our household going to an open dump in Goa. Before you reply to this 
mail, and point fingers at Fredrick or anybody else, could you please 
reciprocate and let us all know in detail how you take care of your household 
waste?

Thanks for bringing up this topic so that I could put my points across.

Clinton..

Ps: Rico, in Copenhagen, I met a guy called John Mulrow who also works with 
composting and he told me that if you have a compost bin in your verandah like 
I do, you could also piss into it as shown in his website's demo vid '3 Things 
about Compost' at http://www.compostmodernist.org/ and prove to Soter that you 
do piss in your verandah! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBejY_A6zA&feature=player_embedded



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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:48:17 +0530
From: "soter" <so...@bsnl.in>
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Subject: Re: [Goanet] Remote Control
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> See Fredericks heart bleed for migrant scrap dealers. He would have been > absolutely silent if they were Goans. He has nothing to say when decades > old gaddas of locals were removed near National theatre in Panjim. > Everything has a place. I am sure that Frederick does not urinate in his > verandah and would reserve certain intimate relationships for the bedroom. > I think Frederick should accomodate all these scrap dealers in his > compound as that would indicate his generosity. Cheering the creation of > shit in someone else's backyard is easy. Frederick is a guy who goes > abroad frequently, has he seen scrap and crap being piled up around > monuments and public squares? Is he creating an issue for nothing?
>
> =Soter

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