I think we need to look at that situation and event in context like every other event.. The Man being spoke about by the priest Was no longer around when the book was written. He died in prison..And this man mentored Ikeda while in prison...WHile many buddhist priest during that period succumbed to the pressure put on the temple by the military government.. Priest to many japanese ...were considered like traitors because they didnt stand up to the tyranny of the monarchy and war machine..while others were persecuted.and imprison... There was much animosity towards those that worked towards the war effort and those opposed...I dont know if that priest was right or wrong...But that priest could have handled the situtation a little better..and so could have Ikeda..if indeed the priest was right.... Yes ..maybe he did attack the priest..maybe he felt the priest was dishonoring the dead..To the western mind..it might not have meant much..Japanese culture is quite different. If my mentor was wrong and was around to defend himself..of course i wouldnt interfere.but would look for an anwser..That was not the situation there.. The man called into question was not around to defend himself..It could be this priest said other things that we do not know..people say things and dont necessarily put everything they say in books...but are often are called to task.. my father is dead..if some one was to come around and put in a book that my dad was a mass murder ..I would be ticked off..And would interpreted it ..that this man is slandering my father.. When someone is falsely slantered,how does that person get their reputation back? Just cause a priest wrote the book doesnt make it credible...I mean I am not a lawyer..It would take much more evidence before i could pass judgement against Ikeda... Mentors can be very wrong..that doesnt mean you should slander them...I know priest and preachers and popes,and Imams that have been wrong.. Now as a buddhist..one should be non-violent..that is the ideal state of consciousness..But is that the case all the time..no..I recalled an incedent over ten years ago where tibetian monks fought each other...I believe one or two monks were killed in the violence..does that mean they are not buddhist? We can say they are not good buddhist maybe..but to say they are not buddhist..who is to judge that? Should... shoshu,shu,SgI in totality be slantered ,,because some members dont act right? --- On Fri, 6/18/10, engyomike <[email protected]> wrote:
From: engyomike <[email protected]> Subject: [GohonzonForum] Infallible mentors? To: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:58 AM Jesus - If your mentor was really in the wrong, and the scholar had his facts in order, does he really rate a punch in the nose because your mentor made a mistake? Or is your mentor automatically infallible, and the scholar was automatically in error because he disagreed with your mentor? I'm just curious here...... Namaste, Engyo --- In [email protected], jesus santiago <desertmonk2...@...> wrote: > > Listen if someone slantered my father or mentor who died in prison...I dont > care if its the pope ..I am going to punch that guy out! As buddhist as I > am..I am still a human..trying to change..and if someone pressed the wrong > buttons on me..I would be like that too. I came up from the streets..and when > a man gets in your face..you take care of business at times.. > Â > Now does he still go around doing the same things he did back then? Has he > changed?Its easy for anyone to slanter someone on line and discredit > someone..and that person cant at times defend themselves.. > > I dont know if anyone here has ever been falsely accused? Let me tell you..it > is the most hurtful thing anyone can go through... > Â > Â > I tell you..buddhist are has judgemental as any christian i know..
