I guess it is what it is. I don't consider myself lucky though,
because I spent three weeks migrating from JDO :). Yeah, Spring is
great and all, and would work just fine on a huge site on App Engine,
but the documentation should be clear about how much time should be
expected for each of the common frameworks out there. That would leave
a lot fewer "OMGWTFBBQ!!!" responses from developers that sack
weeks/months of their time into their projects.

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On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org> wrote:

> 3-4s is pretty close to "as good as it gets" to start a JVM, load your
> app, and begin serving pages.  I've seen 2s load times but 3-4s is
> pretty typical.
>
> Consider yourself lucky!  The poor souls running Spring apps usually
> wait 15s+ for cold starts...
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Blake <blakecaldw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I switched from JDO to twig-persist to save load time, and it seemed
>> to help a bit, but I'm still seeing 3-4 second load times on servlet
>> calls that don't even touch the datastore.  Wow.
>>
>> Of course, after the JVM loads, it's super-fast... but that first hit
>> after a few minutes of inactivity - wow... not good.
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