Actually there are lots of jar files coming with appengine with uncompressed content what could save megabytes of data (http:// groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java/browse_thread/thread/ 0bce0adc3ace4d94#). But I am not sure what effect this can have on JVM startup in GAE/J--if it is less expensive/faster to go use more CPU cycles to uncompress or to save CPU and use more IO for reads (I would expect some kind of IO cache being used on the machines there. Peter
On Apr 20, 9:29 am, Pelle Poluha <mbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Would it make a difference to trim the jar files? I've noted that twig > has a dependency on google collections, a jar file measuring 500k. It > is possible to reduce that jar file and only include the needed > classes. I guess it could be done for the rest of the jar files too. > > On 20 Apr, 05:13, Blake Caldwell <blakecaldw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I guess it is what it is. I don't consider myself lucky though, > > because I spent three weeks migrating from JDO :). Yeah, Spring is > > great and all, and would work just fine on a huge site on App Engine, > > but the documentation should be clear about how much time should be > > expected for each of the common frameworks out there. That would leave > > a lot fewer "OMGWTFBBQ!!!" responses from developers that sack > > weeks/months of their time into their projects. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Jeff Schnitzer <j...@infohazard.org> wrote: > > > > 3-4s is pretty close to "as good as it gets" to start a JVM, load your > > > app, and begin serving pages. I've seen 2s load times but 3-4s is > > > pretty typical. > > > > Consider yourself lucky! The poor souls running Spring apps usually > > > wait 15s+ for cold starts... > > > > Jeff > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Blake <blakecaldw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> I switched from JDO to twig-persist to save load time, and it seemed > > >> to help a bit, but I'm still seeing 3-4 second load times on servlet > > >> calls that don't even touch the datastore. Wow. > > > >> Of course, after the JVM loads, it's super-fast... but that first hit > > >> after a few minutes of inactivity - wow... not good. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > > >> google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group > > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine for Java" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine for Java" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
