It is not bogus.
LazyList#size() fetches all data as follows:
public int size() {
        resolveAllData();
        return results.size();
}

Yasuo Higa

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Dennis Peterson
<dennisbpeter...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not my benchmark, it's Slim3's :) ...but you're right, it's bogus. I
> asked on the main appengine group too, and it turns out the low-level
> benchmark is doing lazy loading. With that fixed, their numbers come out
> like yours.
> I found this one too, which also gets results like yours:
> http://gaejava.appspot.com/
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Erwin Streur <erwin.str...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Indeed Dennis's measurements are very suspicious. First you should do
>> a couple of warming ups on each of the implementations to prevent
>> pollution like the JDO classpath scan for enhanced classes (which is
>> one of the reasons for the high initial run). Then do a couple of run
>> to determine a range of measurements to spot outlyers. your low-level
>> API 2millis is definately one.
>>
>> When I did the measurements I got the following results
>> low-level: 1150-1550
>> Slim3: 1150-1600
>> Objectify: 1950-2400
>> JDO: 2100-2700
>>
>> These measurements confirm that GAE designed implementations are
>> faster then the GAE implementation of a generic data access layer
>> (JDO), but not so extrem as initially posted.
>>
>> The initial response using JDO is a known issue and especially low
>> trafic website should not use it or use the always on feature (maybe
>> this will change in the new pricing model)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>> On Jun 7, 11:00 am, Ian Marshall <ianmarshall...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The low-level API does indeed look very fast.
>> >
>> > Just a comment on JDO: repeat runs roughly halve the JDO run time. I
>> > presume that this is because for repeat runs the JDO persistence
>> > manager factory has already been constructed.
>> >
>> > On Jun 6, 8:44 pm, DennisP <dennisbpeter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm looking at this online
>> > > demo:http://slim3demo.appspot.com/performance/
>> >
>> > > Sample run:
>> > > The number of entities: 10000
>> > > low-level API:get: 2 millis
>> > > Slim3: 2490 millis
>> > > JDO: 6030 millis
>> >
>> > > Is the low-level API really that much faster?
>>
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