Good points.  A little feedback would go a long way here.  Especially
on the SSL issue.  Right now this has been a hobbyist endeavor for me
because of the lack of a clear cut roadmap.  GAE is fun....but fun
does not pay the bills!

On Aug 27, 6:37 pm, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand and also worry a little about the long-term roadmap for
> App Engine as a significant Google offering.  AWS has a much larger
> community and with the addition of persistent storage and sorting of
> Query results, Amazon is rapidly shoring up their deficiencies. That
> said, the two services target different audiences since you still have
> to do a lot of infrastructure management to get something like App
> Engine on top of AWS.  (Or you can pay RightScale or others to do it.)
>
> Also, App Engine is significantly younger than AWS.  Forum traffic and
> articles on Amazon EC2 was light at the beginning as well.  IMHO, I
> think a lot of programmers are waiting for pay-as-you-go and possibly
> https.  Beta AWS services start with pricing and charging at launch.
> EC2/SimpleDB programmers will be more self-selected than Google App
> Engine developers because you have to know the full stack (from OS on
> AMI on up).  I can also see a lot of small development shops going the
> App Engine route because (1) free resources up to a certain point and
> (2) little infrastructure issues.
>
> I've been impressed with the Google App Engine team but also wonder
> how much support they can draw from Google.  Jeff Bezos attends AWS
> events and provides a clear signal that they view AWS as a core
> offering.  I think Yahoo management will do the same if Yahoo launches
> their version of App Engine.  Having stars like GvR on the App Engine
> team sends a signal as well, but it's different than having top
> executives talk up the service.
>
> On Aug 27, 3:09 pm, javaDinosaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am starting to have doubts about continuing to develop my
> > applications for GAE. My concerns are not technical although I have a
> > some anxieties about transaction data propagation performance.
>
> > My concerns center around Google’s commitment to the App Engine
> > project. Compared to Amazon’s Web Service forums this place feels like
> > a technical backwater. Developers hosting on Amazon AWS post
> > interesting questions and get deep-dive replies promptly from Amazon
> > staff. Amazon is releasing new Cloud development services monthly yet
> > all we get is minor patches.
>
> > Here on the GAE forum elementary questions about how GAE ticks go
> > unanswered for months. Basic roadmap type info such as will we get SSL
> > or scheduled tasks is missing.
>
> > I just feel that the GAE Team is not building up any development
> > stream in what should be the last 4 month run up to the year-end
> > release. Communication with the developer community here is abysmal
> > compared to the investment in developer relations made by companies
> > such as Microsoft, Redhat or Amazon.
>
> > What’s happened to the early buzz Google? Has the top bass pinched
> > half the team to firefight problems on another project?- Hide quoted text -
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