This is a sentiment I can relate to. With QueryWithAttributes and
sorting, and the Block Store before that, Amazon is really improving
their offering fast. S3-Europe shows they are sensitive to legitimate
concerns of users, and we can hope other offerings will be Europe-
based in the near future too. SSL has always been there. This kind of
momentum seems to be lacking with Google App Engine.

But most worrying to me is the Google Quota system. When Google does
metrics on the uptime of their service, they should not count the
uptime of their service, but the availability of their service to me,
that is what matters to me. In particular, it is totally unacceptable
that a GAE-based site becomes unreachable for minutes, let alone for
hours or better parts of the day. Clearly, attacks should be avoided
by denying traffic when it ramps up suspiciously fast, but bringing
down the customer's site all together is out of the question. This
Google practice has got me more sceptable about the usability of GAE
for Web 2.0 applications (as opposed to competing services).

Also, Microsoft SSDS suffered a major breakdown this week but the
communication on the topic was very good. There is room for
improvement obviously, but very professional already. It is to be
expected that they announce their GAE competitor on October 27 or 28,
as well as notable improvements to their SSDS service.

I'm sure Google will shore up their deficiencies over time as Amazon
is doing. But an acknowledgement of the issue, and a timeline on when
it might be resolved is important to win and retain the hearts and
minds of the developers. Even if that timeline indication is simply
"after 2009". At least then we know we need to engineer around it.

Having said that, I do believe there is substantial merit to the way
Google is approaching this, with potential automatic scale-up not yet
available with the other services. But as said by the other guys on
this thread, the communication is really insufficient at this point.

Filip

On Aug 28, 12:09 am, javaDinosaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am starting to have doubts about continuing to develop my
> applications for GAE. My concerns are not technical although I have a
> some anxieties about transaction data propagation performance.
>
> My concerns center around Google’s commitment to the App Engine
> project. Compared to Amazon’s Web Service forums this place feels like
> a technical backwater. Developers hosting on Amazon AWS post
> interesting questions and get deep-dive replies promptly from Amazon
> staff. Amazon is releasing new Cloud development services monthly yet
> all we get is minor patches.
>
> Here on the GAE forum elementary questions about how GAE ticks go
> unanswered for months. Basic roadmap type info such as will we get SSL
> or scheduled tasks is missing.
>
> I just feel that the GAE Team is not building up any development
> stream in what should be the last 4 month run up to the year-end
> release. Communication with the developer community here is abysmal
> compared to the investment in developer relations made by companies
> such as Microsoft, Redhat or Amazon.
>
> What’s happened to the early buzz Google? Has the top bass pinched
> half the team to firefight problems on another project?
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