At the risk of continuing this conversation. I fail to see how this is a
problem, or different from any other application. It is my understanding
that GAE dos not allow deleting apps. So even if you were able to access the
admin console you still could not delete your apps. Second, how is this any
different than any other app (including a desktop app) when you opt not to
agree to the TOS you are not allowed to continue installation. Lastly, What
are you protecting by deleting. If this is motivated by intellectual
property or security considerations; you are locking the gate after the cow
has been let out. 

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From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appeng...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KillIEbrowser
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:53 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Why can I pay a beta service? (Where are the
ads?)


Hi Paul,
the problem is the agreement process:

Why can I not choose the [Cancel] option and delete my apps?


On Mar 1, 3:03 pm, Paul Kinlan <paul.kin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I still don't get your opposition to the agreement? You still have 
> your free quota similar to now and you only pay if you want to get 
> more "quota"
>
> Paul.
>
> On 1 Mar 2009, at 10:48, KillIEbrowser <davide.rogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The problem is:
> > why can I not choose [Cancel] because I do not want accept the "New 
> > Terms of Service" and I can not switch the versions because I have 
> > not the access to the Admin Console?
>
> > 1) I can not switch the versions
>
> > 2) because I can not see the admin console
>
> > 3) because I can not accept the "Accept New Terms of Service" (I do  
> >not want) http://appengine.google.com/start/newtos
>
> > I think this is a bug!
>
> > On Mar 1, 12:15 am, GregF <g.fawc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What exactly don't you like? I read through them, and they seem 
> >> fair enough to me.
>
> >> On Mar 1, 1:30 am, KillIEbrowser <davide.rogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Yes, sorry :-)
>
> >>> I'm looking for alternatives because I like Python but I don't 
> >>> like the Google's "New Terms of Service" :-(
>
> >>> On Feb 27, 11:04 pm, Barry Hunter <barrybhun...@googlemail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> What's your actual question?
>
> >>>> Neither of your stated questions seem to make sence - certainly 
> >>>> without some elaboration...
>
> >>>> On 27/02/2009, KillIEbrowser <davide.rogn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>  Issues:
> >>>>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list
>
> >>>>>  - please add java or groovy support
> >>>>>  - PHP support is a must
> >>>>>  - Please add ruby support
> >>>>>  - Add Perl support
> >>>>>  - Scheduled background tasks
> >>>>>  - OpenID support
> >>>>>  - Full-text search api
> >>>>>  - Please add the Python Image Library (PIL)
> >>>>>  - Task Queue API
> >>>>>  - Max number of files and blobs is 1000
> >>>>>  - MapReduce support
> >>>>>  - Please add jvm support, not just Java
> >>>>>  - Support for uploading files larger than 1MB
> >>>>>  - wildcard subdomains
> >>>>>  - Secure the Python Interpreter
> >>>>>  - Better visibility of where CPU cycles are being used
> >>>>>  - Please add Javascript
> >>>>>  - Expand Python framework support to Zope3, Turbogears, and 
> >>>>> Pylons
> >>>>>  - Add SMS sending
> >>>>>  - Please add c#
> >>>>>  - Feature Request: tools/download_data.py and tools/ 
> >>>>> upload_data.py
> >>>>>  - Please add support to GWT
> >>>>>  - Easy e-commerce payment integration
> >>>>>  - Add unique=True/False to db.property constructor to ensure
> >>>>>  uniqueness
> >>>>>  - XMPP functionality
> >>>>>  - lxml module (Feature Request)
> >>>>>  - Please release the source to GoogleAppEngineLauncher (or make 
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>  easier to find)
> >>>>>  - Allow login via both Google Apps and Google Accounts in a 
> >>>>> single app
> >>>>>  - High Amount CPU Quota should be removed
> >>>>>  - Please add NumPy
> >>>>>  - Mechanism for receiving email
> >>>>>  - Officially Support Naked Domains for GAE Apps
> >>>>>  - Support ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML)
> >>>>>  - url fetching should have user supplied timeouts
> >>>>>  - Google APIs Support
> >>>>>  - Frequent timeouts on datastore write operations       1422598
> >>>>>  - Firewall API to throttle or block requests
> >>>>>  - Please add Python 2.6 support
> >>>>>  - SSL/HTTPS Support on Google Apps domains
> >>>>>  - Add support for Erlang
> >>>>>  - Change the user agent of URL Fetch API
> >>>>>  - Please add support for Common Lisp
> >>>>>  - Please add Python 3 support
> >>>>>  - Invited developer can delete the project "owner"
> >>>>>  - Datastore archive
> >>>>>  - Mobile Login UI support
> >>>>>  - Simple Adsense integration
> >>>>>  - Incompatible with pkg_resources
> >>>>>  - Django 1.0 Support in App Engine
> >>>>>  - non-ascii CSV data not handled by 
> >>>>> google.appengine.ext.bulkload
> >>>>>  (Unicode errors)        1329626
> >>>>>  - Comet / Asynchronous / HTTP Streaming / Reverse AJAX / Long 
> >>>>> Polling
> >>>>>  - Cannot query for nearby points or distance with GeoPt or 
> >>>>> other means
> >>>>>  - There is no way to maintain a global conservation law.
> >>>>>  - Slower response times for alias domains       1416736
> >>>>>  - api to query quota statistics
> >>>>>  - 500 Server Error - report goes to Google Help
> >>>>>  - Link this bug tracker from the google app home page
> >>>>>  - Mail API should allow sending UTF-8 / unicode messages
> >>>>>  - I should be able to revert to previous (minor) deployed 
> >>>>> versions
> >>>>>  - Add support for datastore schema migrations
> >>>>>  - Enable authentication option change
> >>>>>  - Google Apps domain alias won't work in Google App Engine
> >>>>>  - Custom Error page handlers in the app.yaml file?
> >>>>>  - Wanted: Count of a query (really)
> >>>>>  - webapp doesn't use webob.Response
> >>>>>  - Admin console includes datastore operations in mcycle 
> >>>>> consumption
> >>>>>  statistics
> >>>>>  - It is not possible to set a display name for sender email
> >>>>>  - Please add ReportLab pdf library
> >>>>>  - add original size metrics to image api
> >>>>>  - Secure uploading of apps using HTTPS
> >>>>>  - Please add Spring Framework support
> >>>>>  - log admin enhancements
> >>>>>  - Users should be able to authenticate user without knowing 
> >>>>> users's
> >>>>>  email address
> >>>>>  - Dev Appserver: request for Hardened Modules override
> >>>>>  - Please add Hibernate support
> >>>>>  - Please Add support to SQLAlchemy
> >>>>>  - Google proxy should obey cache-control header
> >>>>>  - Seems to be no support for proxy in appcfg.py         1227968
> >>>>>  - Feature: DNS Lookup
> >>>>>  - Public key encryption/decryption
> >>>>>  - appcfg.py needs option to sync dev data with app engine 
> >>>>> datastore
> >>>>>  - Please add Tcl support
> >>>>>  - urlfetch.fetch() returns incomplete value for 'Set-Cookie' 
> >>>>> header
> >>>>>  field.  1329653         Urlfetch
> >>>>>  - URL Fetch API precludes incremental consumption
> >>>>>  - [RFE] Cross App Queries
> >>>>>  - Datastore viewer TypeError when trying to view an Entity      
> >>>>> 1160452
> >>>>>  Adminconsole
> >>>>>  - Collaboration Tools: Ability To Edit Source Code Online + 
> >>>>> Source
> >>>>>  Control
> >>>>>  - AppEngines always return 200 for static files, returning 302 
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>  cached items could decrease bandwidth usage...
> >>>>>  - Add SDK support for alternate datastore backend
> >>>>>  - Enable fetch from/to trusted domains on ports other than 80 /
> >>>>> 443
> >>>>>  - Add memcache flush to the admin dashboard
> >>>>>  - Support the "login page" in many languages
> >>>>>  - Request: protocol buffers
> >>>>>  - ORDER BY changes the number of results in production server   
> >>>>> 1516951
> >>>>>         Datastore
> >>>>>  - Want better Google Account explanation and hyperlinks for our 
> >>>>> users
> >>>>>  - appcfg.py upload progress
> >>>>>  - Upload (ERROR appcfg.py:1334 An unexpected error occurred) 
> >>>>> Not
> >>>>>  Recovering - Many versions created      1291192
>
> >>>>>  [ CONTINUE ...]
> >>>>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list


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