"""
It really can't be repeated enough.. This is a "preview release" of
appengine...
No doubt, Google is dedicating all of their resources to developing
the infrastructure.
"""

In a preview release, users are expected to communicate what's great
and what sux. That's what we're doing.

Also, you don't know if Google is dedicating any resources to
developing a support infrastructure... because... they have never said
they are!  Which is kind of another facet of the overall point.

Appengine is a great technology.  Let's hope it becomes a great
product.

johnP




On Nov 30, 6:23 pm, Eli Jones <eli.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It really can't be repeated enough.. This is a "preview release" of appengine.
>
> You're in the wild west... And you gotta deal with it.
>
> No doubt, Google is dedicating all of their resources to developing
> the infrastructure.  If you need white glove support, you shouldn't be
> setting clients up on appengine.
>
> On 11/30/09, Greg <g.fawc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I too bet on Appengine, and so far that bet is paying off handsomely.
> > My company's latest service is built entirely on Appengine, and has
> > been very successful - we have hundreds of paying customers, and it is
> > becoming mission-critical. It's fair to say that Appengine support is
> > now our biggest concern.
>
> > As well as the issue in this thead, it seems that index rebuilding is
> > still a problem, and I'm guessing there are other issues too. So given
> > there are potential show-stoppers, anyone providing a commercial
> > application on Appengine needs support in minutes - not when Nick gets
> > back from his conference.
>
> > And if this isn't resolved before Azure launches, Google will lose the
> > commercial applications in droves.  IT managers are by nature risk-
> > averse, and a better support system will win against technical
> > superiority and a track record. Want proof? Just look at how
> > technically superior Linux doesn't make headway in the corporate
> > world, unless it's from Red Hat.
>
> > Red Hat offers paid support. Google needs to do this too.
>
> > I know this would be a big departure for Google - they seem to use the
> > same faceless group support system for all their properties. That's
> > fine for the hundreds of "I didn't get my SMS code" and "Ooooops I
> > just deleted my source code, how can I get it back" enquiries. But if
> > my company ever hits the rebuilding index problem, I'm going to look
> > really stupid when I tell our screaming sales manager that I've posted
> > to a group... and that's really all I can do.
>
> > What I'd like is to be able to go to a premium support page, enter my
> > credit card details for $100, and get a phone number or a chat session
> > with a real live engineer. I get my issue resolved, Google makes
> > money, and IT managers get the warm fuzzies about Appengine.
>
> > Finally Nick, if you want appengine to have the future it deserves,
> > please raise this issue with your management. If they don't respond,
> > just let me know your mobile number - $100 a call OK with you? ;)
>
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