I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers
sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be
encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this
functionality.

Ikai Lan
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng <ngk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
> solved our problems
>
> sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
> level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
> SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to GAE
> team?
>
> - eric
>
>
> On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H <ja...@mhztech.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
>> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>>
>> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
>> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou <n...@daskalou.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Eric,
>> >
>> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
>> >
>> > http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
>> >
>> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES
>> you
>> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 instance.
>> >
>> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
>> sure
>> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
>> would
>> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
>> SES's
>> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
>> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
>> >
>> > Nick
>> >
>> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng <ngk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Ernesto,
>> >
>> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
>> >
>> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to their
>> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent
>> by us
>> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are nothing
>> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
>> actually
>> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
>> >
>> > > regards,
>> > > eric
>> >
>> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra <ernestoka...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
>> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
>> > >> (for that users, at least).
>> >
>> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
>> > >> solution.
>> >
>> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng <ngk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our
>> users
>> > >> through
>> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
>> > >> > registered admin for the app.
>> >
>> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
>> > >> provider
>> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
>> these
>> > >> emails
>> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
>> the
>> > >> user
>> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") .
>> in
>> > >> this
>> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
>> (they
>> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
>> >
>> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
>> results
>> > >> are
>> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
>> maybe
>> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
>> like '@
>> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
>> from
>> > >> this
>> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
>> >
>> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
>> causes?
>> > >> any
>> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email to
>> our
>> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) thx
>> in
>> > >> > advanced!
>> >
>> > >> > - eric
>> >
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