Your app actually only runs out of one data center at once.  The
diagram was a little misleading.  If a data center goes down then your
app is served out of the other with a different memcache (empty)

On May 14, 3:26 pm, Sergey Schetinin <ser...@maluke.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure the memcached clusters (if there are more than one)
> are not synchronized. First of all, that would be way too slow.
> Second, the talk I referenced specifically mentions that when the apps
> are being migrated from a DC, the memcache writes return success but
> are in fact noop, because synchronizing memcache data does not make
> sense. So I would expect that there's no synchronization going on
> during regular operation as well.
>
> Anyway, I really hope that there's only one memcached cluster active at a 
> time.
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> On 14 May 2011 22:05, rekby <timofey.koo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I thing HR-applications have more than one syncronised memcache - by
> > me test save in HR-memcache in 3 times slower, than Master/Slave
> > application.
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> > On May 14, 6:56 pm, Sergey Schetinin <ser...@maluke.com> wrote:
> >> So, I was watching the presentation on the HR datastore from the IO
> >> 2011 
> >> (http://www.google.com/events/io/2011/sessions/more-9s-please-under-th...
> >> ) and one thing caught my attention: the slides were showing the
> >> frontend instances running in more than one datacenter at the same
> >> time. So I understand that the memcached can lose data at any time and
> >> if the app is migrated between the datacenters all of the data in the
> >> cache are lost, however, running the app in two or more datacenters at
> >> a time each DC having a separate memcached cluster, that changes the
> >> properties quite significantly.
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> >> For example let's consider an app that uses some memcached key to keep
> >> a cursor where to write to the datastore, atomically incrementing it
> >> after each write. Such an app can detect if such a key is not present
> >> in the cache and determine what the cursor is by doing a query on the
> >> database and then add it to the cache atomically. If we add the
> >> possibility that there's another DC running the app w/ an independent
> >> memcached instance, such an app would just corrupt its own data.
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> >> I hope I explained my concern well enough, and I would love to hear an
> >> answer from someone on the App Engine team.
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> >> Thank you.
>
> >> -Sergey
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> >> --http://self.maluke.com/
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