Talking about yourself, Robert? =)

Ikai Lan
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I've got to say, I really like Typhoon AE's approach for this purpose.
>  Swap the 'fake' stubs out in the SDK for one that actually do stuff.
> Most of the GAE APIs are quite nice, simple but quite powerful.
>
> If your datastore access is that thin, I guess you just need something
> that implements some type of simple get and put?
>
> When I read that blog post it just made me think that some people
> probably prefer startup type culture.
>
>
> Robert
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> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:43, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> wrote:
> > Actually it's 3 but who's counting.  :-)
> >
> > No it's about 6, and I have a function that handles my most common
> datastore
> > reads and writes so that when I port to a different data store I swap
> from
> > GAEData.py to MSSQL.PY or AWSMYSQL.PY in the import and the code base
> > doesn't have to change.
> >
> > I do the same thing with URLFetch and MemCache.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:51 AM
> > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Register Article on GAE
> >
> > If you can implement your data access with 6 lines of code, I'm jealous!!
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com>
> wrote:
> >> You are only locked in if you don't build your own functions to talk
> >> to datastore.
> >>
> >> If you have a "Get Data" function you can swap 6 lines of codes with
> >> the 6 lines you need for MSSQL when you move to Azure, or the 8 lines
> >> for LAMP,
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> >> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:39 PM
> >> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Register Article on GAE
> >>
> >> I assume he found my name on this group, but I didn't ask.  Presumably
> >> he's reading this thread :-)
> >>
> >> He seemed like a nice guy.  I thought the article was pretty good, and
> >> casts GAE in a favorable light.  Bringing up MongoDB and HBase makes
> >> sense; along with GAE these are the three horsemen of the SQLpocalypse.
> >>
> >> Most of the article dealt with the question of being "locked in" to
> >> Google and having to deal with high-sigma events like repricing of the
> >> whole business.  When I talk to people who haven't drank the GAE
> >> koolaid, this is the #1 thing they always bring up... and I have to
> >> admit that it's a fair criticism, especially in light of recent
> >> events.  I don't think it's compelling compared to the terrific
> >> benefit of being able to develop, deploy, and scale a app without
> >> hiring an ops team, but I don't expect this criticism to go away.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Metz reached out to me after finding me on the group, but I don't
> >>> think I
> >> said enough things that could be spun as bad so none of them made it
> >> in the article.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G
> >>>
> >>> "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I think it's kind of neat how I recognize every single name in that
> >> article.
> >>>>Did the author find you guys via Google Groups?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ikai Lan
> >>>>Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> >>>>Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> >>>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine
> >>>>Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Andrei <gml...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> There is another article about Android
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217400/Major_damages_sought
> >>>>> _ in_Oracle_Google_patent_dispute_ Does this make any difference
> >>>>> for GAE? Probably not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 7, 9:59 am, Joshua Smith <joshuaesm...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/07/inside_google_app_engine/
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Nice overview, and I didn't see any glaring errors.  I'll be
> >>>>> > keeping a
> >>>>> link to this to pass along whenever anyone asks me what GAE is (and
> >> isn't).
> >>>>>  An interesting observation was that many apps spill into non-GAE
> >>>>> infrastructure when they need some functionality that GAE doesn't
> > offer.
> >>>>>  That's true of several of our apps: one of my apps interfaces with
> >>>>> S3 heavily because I wrote it before BlobStore existed; another
> >>>>> uses GAE only as a massively scalable front-end "lobby" and
> >>>>> scheduler, for access to non-GAE servers (in a private data center,
> >>>>> and in EC2 when the private data center fills up).
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Also, it was interesting to see the coverage of App Scale.  I was
> >>>>> familiar with AETyphoon, but not App Scale.  Nice to know there are
> >>>>> options if google makes some really bad decisions about their
> >>>>> pricing model in the coming months.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > -Joshua
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