Talking about yourself, Robert? =) Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com>wrote: > I've got to say, I really like Typhoon AE's approach for this purpose. > Swap the 'fake' stubs out in the SDK for one that actually do stuff. > Most of the GAE APIs are quite nice, simple but quite powerful. > > If your datastore access is that thin, I guess you just need something > that implements some type of simple get and put? > > When I read that blog post it just made me think that some people > probably prefer startup type culture. > > > Robert > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:43, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> wrote: > > Actually it's 3 but who's counting. :-) > > > > No it's about 6, and I have a function that handles my most common > datastore > > reads and writes so that when I port to a different data store I swap > from > > GAEData.py to MSSQL.PY or AWSMYSQL.PY in the import and the code base > > doesn't have to change. > > > > I do the same thing with URLFetch and MemCache. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:51 AM > > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Register Article on GAE > > > > If you can implement your data access with 6 lines of code, I'm jealous!! > > > > Jeff > > > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> > wrote: > >> You are only locked in if you don't build your own functions to talk > >> to datastore. > >> > >> If you have a "Get Data" function you can swap 6 lines of codes with > >> the 6 lines you need for MSSQL when you move to Azure, or the 8 lines > >> for LAMP, > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > >> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:39 PM > >> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Register Article on GAE > >> > >> I assume he found my name on this group, but I didn't ask. Presumably > >> he's reading this thread :-) > >> > >> He seemed like a nice guy. I thought the article was pretty good, and > >> casts GAE in a favorable light. Bringing up MongoDB and HBase makes > >> sense; along with GAE these are the three horsemen of the SQLpocalypse. > >> > >> Most of the article dealt with the question of being "locked in" to > >> Google and having to deal with high-sigma events like repricing of the > >> whole business. When I talk to people who haven't drank the GAE > >> koolaid, this is the #1 thing they always bring up... and I have to > >> admit that it's a fair criticism, especially in light of recent > >> events. I don't think it's compelling compared to the terrific > >> benefit of being able to develop, deploy, and scale a app without > >> hiring an ops team, but I don't expect this criticism to go away. > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> > wrote: > >>> Metz reached out to me after finding me on the group, but I don't > >>> think I > >> said enough things that could be spun as bad so none of them made it > >> in the article. > >>> > >>> Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G > >>> > >>> "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ika...@google.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>>I think it's kind of neat how I recognize every single name in that > >> article. > >>>>Did the author find you guys via Google Groups? > >>>> > >>>>Ikai Lan > >>>>Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > >>>>Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > >>>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine > >>>>Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Andrei <gml...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> There is another article about Android > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217400/Major_damages_sought > >>>>> _ in_Oracle_Google_patent_dispute_ Does this make any difference > >>>>> for GAE? Probably not? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jun 7, 9:59 am, Joshua Smith <joshuaesm...@charter.net> wrote: > >>>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/07/inside_google_app_engine/ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Nice overview, and I didn't see any glaring errors. I'll be > >>>>> > keeping a > >>>>> link to this to pass along whenever anyone asks me what GAE is (and > >> isn't). > >>>>> An interesting observation was that many apps spill into non-GAE > >>>>> infrastructure when they need some functionality that GAE doesn't > > offer. > >>>>> That's true of several of our apps: one of my apps interfaces with > >>>>> S3 heavily because I wrote it before BlobStore existed; another > >>>>> uses GAE only as a massively scalable front-end "lobby" and > >>>>> scheduler, for access to non-GAE servers (in a private data center, > >>>>> and in EC2 when the private data center fills up). > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Also, it was interesting to see the coverage of App Scale. I was > >>>>> familiar with AETyphoon, but not App Scale. Nice to know there are > >>>>> options if google makes some really bad decisions about their > >>>>> pricing model in the coming months. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -Joshua > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to > google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>Groups > >> "Google App Engine" group. > >>>>To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com > . > >>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups > >> "Google App Engine" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com > . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > >> > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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