When the development of my website is done, I will move to aws for sure under the new gae price model. I select gae to host my app in development process is for gae provide some free quotas.
"They are targeting people who don't have the first clue how to build a distributed system, and those who have built them and know how hard it really is. " If this is right, then I think the market space for gae will be very small, under the new gae price model. On Sep 3, 5:38 am, Joshua Smith <joshuaesm...@charter.net> wrote: > It's about value. I've done EC2. It's not S3. S3 is easy like GAE. EC2 is > much harder. And the learning curve to construct an EC2-based system that > survives an outage is immense. (Witness Foursquare and Quora which both blew > it.) > > For my enterprise apps, the new GAE pricing is very reasonable. I'm saving > something like $65K/year by not needing a sysadmin to set up and maintain > these systems. The 3-year free ride was great, but I'm getting way more than > a few hundred dollars of value each month. We'll eventually port to HR to > get multi-threads. > > For my free app, it's problematic. For Android game back ends, it's > problematic. For many .com startups, it's problematic (which is not good for > google, because having GAE as a startup incubator was a really good thing). > > But for Enterprise apps, which is what GAE has been longing to get to, the > new pricing really is just fine. > > If you don't think so, then go use EC2. I don't think google is targeting > you if you think you know how to build a distributed system, and you think > you want to. They are targeting people who don't have the first clue how to > build a distributed system, and those who have built them and know how hard > it really is. > > -Joshua > > On Sep 2, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Tapir wrote: > > > > > > > > > For a medium traffic website, I can only the amazon EC2 > > "Large Instance 7.5 GB, 4 ECUs, 850 GB of local instance storage, 64- > > bit platform, $0.34 per hour" > > or > > "High-Memory Extra Large Instance, 17.1 GB, 6.5 ECUs, 420 GB of local > > instance storage, 64-bit platform, $0.50 per hour" > > with self-installed memory cache and without using load balancer at > > all. > > And the storage price is less than half of gae. > > > For the same computing power, I need at least 4 gae backends, which > > will cost more than 4 times money than ec2. > > > On Sep 2, 4:41 pm, Barry Hunter <barrybhun...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I know its rather cliché but they really are apples to oranges. > > >> The GAE instance gives you more than a single VPS instance. > > >> Most notably is the Free APIs. In effect you have free access to many > >> things that probably cost you elsewhere. And they dont use the > >> resources of your instance. > >> eg on EC2 you pay extra for a Memcache instance (elasticache). > > >> GAE Instances have in effect a free Elastic Load Balancer (continuing > >> the EC2 comparison) in front of your app. They have Cloudfront bundled > >> in too (the edge-cache). The image manipulation API, is similar to > >> running another gearman instance coordinating dedicated software for > >> resizing iamges (again offloading your instance) > > >> And for the most part you still need a sysadmin to coordinate EC2. > > >> Its the old paas vs iaas argument. > > >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Tapir <tapir....@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Following I list the prices of main cloud hosting companies. > > >>> Hi, googlers, I just want to ask you a simple question: what is the > >>> reason you think you should charge pretty much with pretty less > >>> resource provided? > > >>> ============================================================================== > > >>> App Engine backend price: > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> B1 128MB 600MHz $0.08 per hour > >>> B2 256MB 1.2GHz $0.16 per hour > >>> B4 512MB 2.4GHz $0.32 per hour > >>> B8 1024MB 4.8GHz $0.64 per hour > > >>> On-demand Frontend Instances 24 Instance Hours $0.08 / hour > >>> Reserved Frontend Instances $0.05 / hour > > >>> ============================================================================== > > >>> EC2 > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Micro Instance: 613 MB, up to 2 ECUs (for short periodic bursts), > >>> $0.02 per hour > >>> Small Instance: 1.7 GB, 1 ECU, 160 GB of local instance storage, 32- > >>> bit platform, $0.085 per hour > >>> Large Instance 7.5 GB, 4 ECUs, 850 GB of local instance storage, 64- > >>> bit platform, $0.34 per hour > >>> Extra Large Instance 15 GB, 8 ECUs, 1690 GB of local instance storage, > >>> 64-bit platform, $0.68 per hour > >>> High-Memory Extra Large Instance, 17.1 GB, 6.5 ECUs, 420 GB of local > >>> instance storage, 64-bit platform, $0.50 per hour > >>> High-CPU Medium Instance 1.7 GB,, 5 ECUs, 350 GB of local instance > >>> storage, 32-bit platform, $0.17 per hour > > >>> (comment: one ECU provides the equivalent CPU capacity of a 1.0-1.2 > >>> GHz 2007 Opteron or 2007 Xeon processor.) > > >>> ============================================================================== > > >>> Azure > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> Extra Small 768 MB 1.0 GHz 20 GB Instance Storage $0.05 > >>> Small 1.75 GB 1.6 GHz 225 GB Instance Storage $0.12 > >>> Medium 3.5 GB 2 x 1.6 GHz 490 GB Instance Storage $0.24 > >>> Large 7 GB 4 x 1.6 GHz 1,000 GB Instance Storage High > >>> $0.48 > >>> Extra Large 14 GB 8 x 1.6 GHz 2,040 GB Instance Storage > >>> $0.96 > > >>> ============================================================================== > > >>> Rackspace > >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >>> 256MB RAM 10GB Disk $0.015/hr. > >>> 512MB RAM 20GB Disk $0.03/hr. > >>> 1,024MB RAM 40GB Disk $0.06/hr. > >>> 2,048MB RAM 80GB Disk $0.12/hr. > >>> 4,096MB RAM 160GB Disk $0.24/hr. > >>> 8,192MB RAM 320GB Disk $0.48/hr. > >>> 15,872MB RAM 620GB Disk $0.96/hr. > > >>> (CPU configures are not unknown) > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Google App Engine" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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