I am, and I'll read if I have an NDA to honor before providing details.
That said, if you look through the archives you can find screen shots where
90% of my CPU usage comes in the form of API calls, so my concurrency is not
likely to be typical compared to most other users.


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How do you know what your costs will be with Python 2.7, Brandon?  I don't
believe it is available yet, so are you using it as a "trusted tester"?  If
so, I'd be curious to know how many concurrent threads you can get per
instance with Python 2.7.


On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Brandon Wirtz <drak...@digerat.com> wrote:
> I monetize quite a few of my applications with Adsense, GAE 
> Drastically lowered my hosting costs on the old billing, and since 
> moving to Python 2.7 they are in check for the new billing as well.  
> If I could have old billing and 2.7 I'd be really excited... but 2.7 
> brings my costs inline with what I had anticipated post beta to look like.
>
> -Brandon
>
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> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:59 AM
> To: Google App Engine
> Cc: appengine_updated_pric...@google.com
> Subject: [google-appengine] Another perspective on the upcoming 
> datastore prices
>
> Consider an average dynamic page in any web application.  It might do 
> one entity write and fetch a small result set.  Under the new GAE 
> billing model, this might cost 25 Write Ops, and 21 Read Ops (a pretty 
> conservative estimate).
>
> Those amount to ~ $40 per million page views, which is more than the 
> average revenue from Google AdSense for the same million pageviews!
>
> There's something really wrong with this picture.  The reason AdSense 
> does so well is that web hosting in this day and age costs a lot less 
> than what AdSense earns.  But now GAE hosting is about to cost much 
> more than what AdSense earns (and so far I only counted just the 
> datastore ops, so the true costs might be 2-3x higher than $40 per million
pageviews).
>
> The bottom line: developers will be losing money by hosting an ad- 
> supported application on GAE!
>
> What's going on here? Google App Engine was supposed to be more cost- 
> effective than the alternatives, but these new prices seem to be 
> totally out of whack with the reality of current web economics.
>
> To the management at Google who came up with these prices: please 
> consider consulting the AdSense team before these prices go into effect!
>
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