np Johan.

I was confused earlier on by posts such as

http://blorn.com/post/10013293300/the-unofficial-google-app-engine-price-change-faq

which focuses on multithreading to get pricing down, which I think is
just wrong. There are lots of good reasons to write multithreaded
code, but AppEngine pricing isn't really one of them.

On 13 October 2011 18:22, Johan Euphrosine <pro...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi Emlyn,
>
> Thanks for sharing those articles, it is very nice that you were able
> to backup the billing formula with hard facts.
>
> As it was discussed in the groups during the pricing model change the
> billing formula under the new model will be:
> billable_instances_rate = min(active_instances_rate +
> max_idle_instances, total_instances_rate)
>
> where in the dashboard:
> - active_instances_rates is the yellow line
> - total_instances_rate is the blue line
> - max_idle_instances is the upper bound of "Idle Instances" performance 
> settings
>
> If you set max_idle_instances to automatic, it's equivalent to setting
> it to a very large number making the formula essentially become:
> billable_instances_rate = total_instances_rate
>
> See the following threads where Jon McAlister commented about the
> billing formula:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/zuRXAphGnPk/UiTgTIIesL0J
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/W-17IhgwrLI/05Wti7I39EUJ
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/T-dJtXmOO8U/npM69XZAJFcJ
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Emlyn <emlynore...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been testing this hypothesis:
>>
>> Hypothesis: Ignoring the 15 minute cost for spinning up new instances,
>> the price we pay is the moment by moment minimum of (total instances)
>> and (active instances + Max Idle Instances). If Max Idle Instances is
>> set to Automatic, then we pay for the moment by moment total
>> instances.
>>
>> It holds. That is, if you leave the default Max Idle Instances setting
>> (Automatic), you'll be billed for every bit of instance time the
>> scheduler chooses to run. If you set it to a fixed number, you'll have
>> a fixed cost cap based on the actual work you are doing (a lot more
>> like cpu time), in most cases a lot lower.
>>
>> Here are a couple of posts in detail, with graphs, billing numbers, pictures!
>>
>> The Spiny Norman Test
>> http://appenginedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/10/spiny-norman-test.html
>>
>> Go Spiny Norman, Go
>> http://appenginedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/10/go-spiny-norman-go.html
>>
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