I've updated to Python 2.7 and gotten things working locally, but still 
getting 404s on the server.  Given that the appstpot url is working 
directly, maybe this really is a domain verification problem.  I'm running 
into lots of roadblocks again, which is frustrating.  Like I said, I can't 
add a TXT record for some reason.  And now I'm trying to follow the 
instructions on

https://www.google.com/webmasters/verification/verification?authuser=0&domain=bigriddles.com

to verify the domain by signing in to GoDaddy in the pop-up window.  And 
for whatever reason the GoDaddy credentials supplied by Google in the admin 
console do not work in that popup.

On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 2:32:08 PM UTC-8, jhf555 wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response Adam.  I'm actually gonna transfer my domain away 
> from GoDaddy altogether...I just initiated the domain transfer this morning 
> so it will be a few days before it's completed.  I still have no idea why 
> their UI said I had added the TXT record successfully, but it didn't stick 
> for whatever reason.  Even so, I'm not sure why I'd actually need that TXT 
> record.  I bought the domain through Google (which used GoDaddy as the 
> registrar) and I don't remember needing to do anything further to verify 
> the domain when I set up my app (and I'm not using SSL).  That being said, 
> I set this up over 5 years ago I think so I might be forgetting something.
>
> Ignoring DNS for the moment, the 404s are puzzling, and I couldn't find 
> any log messages in the Google Cloud Log Viewer that tipped me off as to 
> why they suddenly started.  Everything worked fine locally when running 
> with dev_appserver.py.  My best guess was that something recently got 
> deprecated that I was using, so I decided to try to update my app to more 
> modern libraries (my app was still using Python 2.5).  I'm now down the 
> rabbit hole of actually trying to upgrade everything to see if that fixes 
> things.  I'm also adding extra logging to my app to see if I can figure out 
> where the 404 gets triggered.
>
> Not sure if you have the ability to look, but is there likely a good way 
> to figure out what's causing the 404s other than just adding extensive 
> logging?  The app-engine console shows me nothing useful that I can find 
> other than the graph of 404s, and like I said everything works locally.  I 
> tried curling as well to see if you send back any debug headers but didn't 
> see anything.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 12:21:27 PM UTC-8, Adam (Cloud Platform 
> Support) wrote:
>>
>> As a follow up, it's also a good idea to double check your Developers 
>> Console settings 
>> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/console/using-custom-domains-and-ssl>
>>  to 
>> make sure it's set up properly. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 3:17:52 PM UTC-5, Adam (Cloud Platform 
>> Support) wrote:
>>>
>>> You can see that the domain is still hosted on GoDaddy's servers if you 
>>> do a 'dig <http://linux.die.net/man/1/dig>' on the domain or use a site 
>>> like network-tools.com to do a lookup on the domain:
>>>
>>> ;ANSWER
>>> bigriddles.com. 3599 IN NS ns50.domaincontrol.com.
>>> bigriddles.com. 3599 IN NS ns49.domaincontrol.com.
>>>
>>> No TXT record though. Again you can use network-tools.com or 'dig' to 
>>> see if it's there. If the record isn't being published, the Google 
>>> verification tool isn't going to work either.
>>>
>>> It's possible that the record may not be entered correctly or there is a 
>>> problem with GoDaddy's DNS servers or your DNS configuration. Posting a 
>>> screen capture of how the TXT record looks in your DNS control panel may 
>>> help.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 10:50:48 AM UTC-5, jhf555 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Latest update: GoDaddy won't let me add the TXT record...it says it's 
>>>> being added but when I refresh (even a day later) per the instructions on 
>>>> https://support.google.com/quickfixes/answer/6252336?hl=en&rd=1, the 
>>>> record isn't actually there.  I'm not sure if this is because Google 
>>>> itself 
>>>> is managing the DNS account and I can't make certain changes...whatever it 
>>>> is, it's confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I also tried upgrading my app to use Python 2.7 (from 2.5) and 
>>>> redeploying but this still causes 404s.
>>>>
>>>> Next step is going to be transferring my domain away from 
>>>> Google/GoDaddy to see if I can actually control the DNS.  
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 3:09:35 PM UTC-8, jhf555 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've added a TXT record for my domain as per the other post, though it 
>>>>> doesn't work (at least not yet).  Would appreciate some help from someone 
>>>>> at Google.  Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 2:50:22 PM UTC-8, jhf555 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I scrolled down to posts from the day this started happening to me 
>>>>>> and it looks like it hit others as well.  I'll try out their fix: 
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/google-appengine/LhQ2NEydn0w/tt6v0-RzBAAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 2:45:13 PM UTC-8, jhf555 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I run a website on App Engine and since what looks like Feb 18 it 
>>>>>>> has just been returning 404s.  I haven't changed anything that I know 
>>>>>>> if in 
>>>>>>> quite a while so I'm not sure why this would suddenly have started.  
>>>>>>> And if 
>>>>>>> I visit the "appspot" version of the site directly, it works fine.  The 
>>>>>>> sites are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 404ing:
>>>>>>> http://www.bigriddles.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And here's the working version:
>>>>>>> https://bigriddles-hrd.appspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm digging around the app engine console but don't see anything 
>>>>>>> obvious yet.  My billing info looks up to date.  DNS for www.bigriddles 
>>>>>>> appears to be pointing to the right place.  The Quota page isn't 
>>>>>>> showing 
>>>>>>> any obvious issues for being over quotas.  Any ideas what could be 
>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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