Derek Not sure if he'd be anymore happy with it, but take a look at the Google / Postini archiving functions.
Mally On Oct 20, 2012 5:22 PM, "System Administrator" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Alexandre and Mally. > > At the start let me acknowledge that you are not part of Google, so this > is not addressed to you, but to someone, anyone in Google who might be > paying attention. I also realize "this is not the place", but there does > not seem to be any place for such an issue. So "Hail Mary": > > The delegated account is is the "recommended solution" that left us > gobsmacked. > > The lawyer in question is understandably very nervous about leaving a > chain of delegated accounts as he reaches the 25GB limit in each one. As > one simple example -- what happens to conversations (negotiations) if he > starts a new account? Some of these negotiations extend over a decade. > > The "Google Apps Management" team need to beef up Google's mail archiving > functions. > > This is a real-world need that Google already has the resources in place > to meet (and has clients who are willing to pay), but hasn't connected the > dots. I refer, of course, to Google Drive, with 16TB of storage on > offer, side-by-side with Google Apps mail limited to 25GB. Someone needs > to do some design and coding! > > I have lots of lawyers using solutions like zimbra (and exchange) for whom > I can't, in good conscience, recommend google apps because of this > particular (and particularly myopic) oversight (leaving aside the > confidentiality concerns). > > This particular lawyer, being a specialist and not part of a big firm, > stopped maintaining his own imap server a couple of years ago for the > benefits of greater accessibility (and google's search function). Google > has him hooked with the search function for a while longer, but as we get > to the next 25 GB limit, you can bet he'll be seriously considering a move > back to his own server, probably a co-lo zimbra solution. Especially if > the "delegate account" solution proves at all awkward. > > I estimate Google have about 18-20 months to get a decent email archiving > function working (or increase the 25GB limit), or lose this particular > client. And lose any chance of recruiting other large-scale email users > from my base of clients. > > d. > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Alexandre Jacquet < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The solution recommended in this case is to rename the account to _back >> or _old create a new, and delegate to the user, if you want you could also >> migrate a small percentage, it is not the best solution however it is the >> workaround offered. >> >> Other solution it is, like Mally said, a 3rd party tool. >> >> >> Alexandre Jacquet >> <http://certification.googleapps.com/Home/overview>*[image: Inline >> image 1]* >> >> Nubis Partners - *Nice 2 Cloud U* >> [email protected] >> Deployment & Operations >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Mally Mclane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Derek >>> >>> I sympathise with you, we are moving to Google as a University (some >>> 10,000 users) and we will hit this limit at some point. We can't even, as >>> an EDU, buy extra storage and manage it centrally for apps like drive. >>> >>> Unfortunately though, this forum is for help on Google APIs, it is >>> unlikely you will get help here for your problem. >>> >>> I believe there are 3rd party apps in the Apps Marketplace that can help >>> someway to what you want, you may find mileage looking there. >>> >>> Mally >>> On Oct 17, 2012 12:47 AM, "DerekShaw" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> One of my clients, a lawyer, recently ran into the 25 GB limit on >>>> Gmail. To say we were gobsmacked to find out that google doesn't want to >>>> keep his business is to understate the case dramatically. >>>> >>>> He needs his email archive searchable and in one place. He's quite >>>> happy to pay for the storage. What's not acceptable is the cartoonish >>>> "workaround" of turning his existing account into an archive account and >>>> carrying on with a new account. Especially when he has unused space in >>>> google drive. >>>> >>>> He is not interested in the (apparently) current options of "archiving" >>>> incoming and outgoing messages. He wants to put is older message into a >>>> (searchable, this is google) archive. He'd be happy to move 98% of his >>>> mail to google drive and live with a smaller gmail account. >>>> >>>> this is, sadly, not available to him. >>>> >>>> And please don't suggest stripping the attachments from the emails and >>>> putting them in the gdrive. We went through that with Eudora, and the most >>>> loyal of my clients gave up on that 18 years ago. >>>> >>>> Local storage/archiving is not an option. This is truly a cloud user, >>>> and we can't make it work. >>>> >>>> If there is a way available, or there is going to be a way available, >>>> please let us know. >>>> >>>> The alternative is what drove us to google in the first place -- >>>> managing his own collaboration server. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-apps-mgmt-apis/-/6bdrCEVr9bAJ. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. 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