Thanks, Mally. We did. The cumbersome nature of working with it, and its "soon to be replaced by a native google offering" status made it less interesting than it should be. Especially since the new service is not particularly available to him.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/082212-postini-google-apps-261858.html d. On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Mally Mclane <[email protected]> wrote: > Derek > > Not sure if he'd be anymore happy with it, but take a look at the Google / > Postini archiving functions. > > Mally > On Oct 20, 2012 5:22 PM, "System Administrator" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Alexandre and Mally. >> >> At the start let me acknowledge that you are not part of Google, so this >> is not addressed to you, but to someone, anyone in Google who might be >> paying attention. I also realize "this is not the place", but there does >> not seem to be any place for such an issue. So "Hail Mary": >> >> The delegated account is is the "recommended solution" that left us >> gobsmacked. >> >> The lawyer in question is understandably very nervous about leaving a >> chain of delegated accounts as he reaches the 25GB limit in each one. As >> one simple example -- what happens to conversations (negotiations) if he >> starts a new account? Some of these negotiations extend over a decade. >> >> The "Google Apps Management" team need to beef up Google's mail archiving >> functions. >> >> This is a real-world need that Google already has the resources in place >> to meet (and has clients who are willing to pay), but hasn't connected the >> dots. I refer, of course, to Google Drive, with 16TB of storage on >> offer, side-by-side with Google Apps mail limited to 25GB. Someone needs >> to do some design and coding! >> >> I have lots of lawyers using solutions like zimbra (and exchange) for >> whom I can't, in good conscience, recommend google apps because of this >> particular (and particularly myopic) oversight (leaving aside the >> confidentiality concerns). >> >> This particular lawyer, being a specialist and not part of a big firm, >> stopped maintaining his own imap server a couple of years ago for the >> benefits of greater accessibility (and google's search function). Google >> has him hooked with the search function for a while longer, but as we get >> to the next 25 GB limit, you can bet he'll be seriously considering a move >> back to his own server, probably a co-lo zimbra solution. Especially if >> the "delegate account" solution proves at all awkward. >> >> I estimate Google have about 18-20 months to get a decent email archiving >> function working (or increase the 25GB limit), or lose this particular >> client. And lose any chance of recruiting other large-scale email users >> from my base of clients. >> >> d. >> >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Alexandre Jacquet < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The solution recommended in this case is to rename the account to _back >>> or _old create a new, and delegate to the user, if you want you could also >>> migrate a small percentage, it is not the best solution however it is the >>> workaround offered. >>> >>> Other solution it is, like Mally said, a 3rd party tool. >>> >>> >>> Alexandre Jacquet >>> <http://certification.googleapps.com/Home/overview>*[image: Inline >>> image 1]* >>> >>> Nubis Partners - *Nice 2 Cloud U* >>> [email protected] >>> Deployment & Operations >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Mally Mclane <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> I sympathise with you, we are moving to Google as a University (some >>>> 10,000 users) and we will hit this limit at some point. We can't even, as >>>> an EDU, buy extra storage and manage it centrally for apps like drive. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately though, this forum is for help on Google APIs, it is >>>> unlikely you will get help here for your problem. >>>> >>>> I believe there are 3rd party apps in the Apps Marketplace that can >>>> help someway to what you want, you may find mileage looking there. >>>> >>>> Mally >>>> On Oct 17, 2012 12:47 AM, "DerekShaw" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One of my clients, a lawyer, recently ran into the 25 GB limit on >>>>> Gmail. To say we were gobsmacked to find out that google doesn't want to >>>>> keep his business is to understate the case dramatically. >>>>> >>>>> He needs his email archive searchable and in one place. He's quite >>>>> happy to pay for the storage. What's not acceptable is the cartoonish >>>>> "workaround" of turning his existing account into an archive account and >>>>> carrying on with a new account. Especially when he has unused space in >>>>> google drive. >>>>> >>>>> He is not interested in the (apparently) current options of >>>>> "archiving" incoming and outgoing messages. He wants to put is older >>>>> message into a (searchable, this is google) archive. He'd be happy to >>>>> move 98% of his mail to google drive and live with a smaller gmail >>>>> account. >>>>> >>>>> this is, sadly, not available to him. >>>>> >>>>> And please don't suggest stripping the attachments from the emails and >>>>> putting them in the gdrive. We went through that with Eudora, and the >>>>> most >>>>> loyal of my clients gave up on that 18 years ago. >>>>> >>>>> Local storage/archiving is not an option. This is truly a cloud user, >>>>> and we can't make it work. >>>>> >>>>> If there is a way available, or there is going to be a way available, >>>>> please let us know. >>>>> >>>>> The alternative is what drove us to google in the first place -- >>>>> managing his own collaboration server. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-apps-mgmt-apis/-/6bdrCEVr9bAJ. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-apps-mgmt-apis?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Apps Domain Information and Management APIs" group. 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