On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Magnus <alpineblas...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> I have thought about this the whole day now and it really sounds
> interesting to me to give it a try with external login, but - if I
> understood you right - I see a big disatvantage:
>
> Many applications are not or should not be usable at all when the user
> is not logged in. But there are also applications that should be
> usable (in a limited way) without login.
>
> Consider eBay: You can search and browse as nobody, but if you want to
> sell, you have to sign in. Or consider a chess application: You can
> watch everything, but if you want to create a new game, you have to
> sign in first. Consider a forum: You can read a lot, but not
> everything, but after you login, you can read everything and also
> write.
>
> So my problem is that with your method I had to lock out all guest
> users that just want to come and see what is going on there!
>
> For now, I am not sure if I understood you right. In addition I am
> thinking about a "dummy user" to let guests come into my application,
> but I am not sure if this is a solution.
>
> What do you think about this?
>

You're on the right track. Consider separating authentication (who are you)
from authorization (what can you do). You have a /guest/ role along side a
/user/ role.

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