Gregor, thanks very much for the info! At least it ruled some things out, but I 
have still no idea what is causing this and it’s very difficult do the needed 
poking around without a similar setup (macOS 14 without Rosetta installed). 
I’ll have to ponder on this, if this really is caused by some change by macOS 
14, a solution must be found sooner rather than later.

An alternative way to install GRASS with native architecture for ARM is with 
MacPorts [1]. It does, however, involve some Terminal-batics! If you are in 
need for other GIS software like QGIS in particular, MacPorts is currently, in 
my experience, a most solid solution with available GRASS plugin (as there is 
no native official QGIS.app bundle for ARM).

To be continued…

Cheers,
Nicklas

[1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compiling_on_macOS_using_MacPorts


> On 20 Sep 2023, at 16:47, Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Niklas, 
> 
> 
> please find my answers below: 
> 
>> `file /usr/bin/osascript` 
> 
> evidently still a universal binary, see this screenshot
> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.13.56?PM.png>
> 
>> `osascript -i`
> 
> worked with no noticeable issues
> 
>> /Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh
> 
> produced the unverified developer warning as expected. Logically I could and 
> should probably override this, but with 10 years since my last time coding, 
> and having never learned the basics of UNIX, I would prefer to follow the 
> strictest Apple security guidelines, or sometimes perhaps theater, when 
> possible.
> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.21.07?PM.png>
> 
>> `sw_vers -productVersion`
> 14.0
> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.33.25?PM.png>
> 
>> file /usr/bin/sw_vers
> universal binary
> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.31.23?PM.png>
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Gregor
> 
> 
>> On 2023-09-20, at 9:52 AM, Nicklas Larsson <n_lars...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Gregor,
>> 
>> Browsing the content of both GRASS.app and the FreeCAD.app, they seem 
>> correctly to have been built for arm machines. Both are based on conda 
>> dependencies and both are initiated by shell script.
>> 
>> The shell script initialising GRASS involves the use of 
>> '/usr/bin/osascript', which on macOS 12 is a universal binary. Perhaps 
>> something did change with this command, please test the following:
>> 
>> `file /usr/bin/osascript` 
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> `osascript -i`
>> 
>> (which should enter interactive mode, you may exit with Ctrl-C).
>> 
>> 
>> You could also try start GRASS manually from Terminal:
>> 
>> `/Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh`
>> 
>> (That step may, however, be prevented because of the app being unsigned).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For control, the FreeCAD shell script contains the following command:
>> 
>> `sw_vers -productVersion`
>> 
>> Could you try that? ’sw_vers' is also a universal binary on macOS 12. What 
>> will the following give:
>> 
>> `file /usr/bin/sw_vers`
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nicklas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2023, at 20:54, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been corresponding with this GRASS user about how the software works 
>>> with the new Apple ARM processors. Nicklas and I have compiled GRASS for 
>>> ARM processors successfully. These are posted on the GRASS for Mac site 
>>> (https://cmbarton.github.io/grass-mac/). When Gregor tries to launch GRASS 
>>> under the new MacOS 14 (Sonoma) he gets a notice that Rosetta (Intel 
>>> processor emulator) is needed. They launch on my ARM MacBook Pro with no 
>>> notice, but I am not using Sonoma yet. 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions about what might be triggering this notice 
>>> at launch time? AFAIK, initialization only calls the following:
>>> 1. shell launch script
>>> 2. wxPython
>>> 3. Python
>>> 
>>> Is there any other module or dependency that gets called at initial launch 
>>> (no maps displayed)? 
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> _____________________________
>>> C. Michael Barton
>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>> Arizona State University
>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>> USA
>>> 
>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>> 
>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: GRASS GIS for Apple Silicon Macs
>>>> Date: September 18, 2023 at 11:34:02 AM MST
>>>> To: Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu>
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately I suspect we have had another miscommunication. 
>>>> Let me list the specific steps that lead to the Rosetta prompt: 
>>>> - Download GRASS 8.3.0 Apple ARM or GRASS 8.4dev from your webpage
>>>> - mount either downloaded Diskimage
>>>> - copy the GRASS application file from the mounted DMG to the Applications 
>>>> folder
>>>> - double click and launch the GRASS application
>>>> - macOS shows a prompt to install Rosetta to continue
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously the prompt only appears when actually launching GRASS, the 
>>>> launch just never progresses past it, and no console or GUI can appear.
>>>> 
>>>> To my eyes the OS behavior seems credible in this case, though I obviously 
>>>> have no insights beyond the regular UI level.
>>>> 
>>>> Could you send me an email contact to the GRASS dev list. I frankly never 
>>>> understood how these lists work, I assume some kind of e-mail chain, but I 
>>>> noticed no actual e-mail addresses on the main GRASS webpage, only on your 
>>>> Mac distribution site.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Gregor
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 8:20 PM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Gregor, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I lean toward this being a bug in the beta at the moment. The reason is 
>>>>> that installing GRASS should not raise a Rosetta request, at least until 
>>>>> you run GRASS. This is because GRASS is organized as a set of independent 
>>>>> modules, overlayed with an optional GUI. Running GRASS invokes a shell 
>>>>> script (that should not require Rosestta, since it launches an ARM 
>>>>> terminal) and than the GUI in Python 3 and wxPython. But these should 
>>>>> also be ARM compatible. It is possible that one or more of the >300 
>>>>> individual modules or dependencies require Rosetta. But these should not 
>>>>> call Rosetta until they are launched. Also, they are mostly in C and 
>>>>> Python, with some C++ code--all of which was compiled under ARM tools. 
>>>>> You might post this question to the GRASS dev list. It is hard to say 
>>>>> what is causing this message to appear in your beta when nothing is 
>>>>> launched. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>> USA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>> 
>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Understood! 
>>>>>> If possible, and if you deem it worth it, I would kindly ask you to 
>>>>>> eventually address this presumed issue. 
>>>>>> Apple Silicon Mac users like myself will probably avoid to install the 
>>>>>> Rosetta framework also in the future, as more and more apps get native 
>>>>>> releases. 
>>>>>> Obviously, as you offer your work voluntarily and for free, I have no 
>>>>>> way to make demands, I simply submit the suggestion for your 
>>>>>> consideration. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Furthermore I would truly hope for someone to develop a lightweight 
>>>>>> iPadOS map authoring app in the future, as foremost the interface, 
>>>>>> paired with Apple Pencil, just fits graphics and geometry oriented work 
>>>>>> very naturally, and I personally see the entire system architecture as 
>>>>>> much more pleasant and intuitive. Lastly I would really hope that land 
>>>>>> survey work can escape the ruthless grip of proprietary software 
>>>>>> platforms like the Autodesk apps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 4:19 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Thanks for the information. This is helpful. It is possible that a 
>>>>>>> dependency somewhere in the app needs Rosetta. However, the app is 
>>>>>>> compiled with the ARM SDK and an ARM build environment. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I use an M2 MacBook Air purchased from Apple.com, running Sonoma Beta. 
>>>>>>>> The machine shipped with Rosetta excluded from the macOS installation 
>>>>>>>> as standard. 
>>>>>>>> For that reason launching any Intel app will show me a prompt to first 
>>>>>>>> download and install Rosetta, with a GB amount noted, between 5-10 GB 
>>>>>>>> if I remember correctly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your GRASS Apple ARM binaries both show that same Rosetta installation 
>>>>>>>> prompt upon launch, with no other way to proceed. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In comparison, most other Apple Silicon labelled app binaries I tried, 
>>>>>>>> eg. Solvespace, run with no Rosetta prompt and requirement, as 
>>>>>>>> expected. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However, as mentioned before, a second Apple Silicon labelled app 
>>>>>>>> binary, FreeCAD, also causes the Rosetta prompt on my system, making 
>>>>>>>> the possibility of a Sonoma Beta bug a bit more likely. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apple, AFAIK, have already reached the RC phase of the Beta period 
>>>>>>>> though, and I have encountered this issue with no other apps than 
>>>>>>>> these two.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I found this article picturing the Rosetta 2 install prompt I mention, 
>>>>>>>> proving the veracity of my account, in addition to all but confirming 
>>>>>>>> the suspected difficulty to remove it after installation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> GH
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 3:28 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Mac ARM does not require Rosetta. I am using it on my MacBook Pro 
>>>>>>>>> 2023 without Rosetta. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by keeping your system free of Rosetta or 
>>>>>>>>> changes in your system installation. I'm running MacOS 13.5.1. AFAIK, 
>>>>>>>>> there is no Mac OS installation option to include or not include 
>>>>>>>>> Rosetta. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> GRASS makes no changes to the OS. All dependencies are within the 
>>>>>>>>> app. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:24 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no practical way to run GRASS since the Mac ARM version 
>>>>>>>>>> requires Rosetta. I want to keep my system free of Rosetta, or any 
>>>>>>>>>> irreversible changes it might make in my system installation. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In order to run GRASS I would need an actual Apple Silicon native 
>>>>>>>>>> binary.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I hope I read the question correctly this time.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 3:13 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  You misunderstand my question. Did you try to import a DWG into 
>>>>>>>>>>> GRASS? If so, what steps did you go through and what was the output 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the console?  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> MIchael 
>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hours of online research, this stackoverflow post mentioning GDAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as at least one possible DWG GeoJSON bridge, and finding GRASS as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the only actively maintained Mac compatible GIS tools.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I find it puzzling that AutoDesk themselves offer almost no export 
>>>>>>>>>>>> format choices for AutoCAD for Mac, see this support article, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> no JSON export for somewhat more capable Windows version.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 2:16 AM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Gregor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am asking how you are trying to import DWG files in GRASS? What 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps dod you go through? You must have done something in order 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get the behavior you are asking about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 4:50 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no previous experience with GRASS, I can specify no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific modules. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I simply wanted to find an Apple Silicon compatible map 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authoring tool that allowed me to, import, view and edit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property line geometry from a DWG file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might have misjudged the feature scope of GRASS for that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In regard to listing a release as “Apple ARM”, I would expect it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to only contain fully ARM native code, and no x86 architecture 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependencies. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really see no room for negotiation or interpretation here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 1:27 AM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  These are up to date. The ARM apps are set up to not require 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rosetta for normal GRASS modules. However, whether or not a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of code will run natively with Apple Silicon depends on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how that code was developed and its dependencies. I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compiling the normal GRASS source code, however it is designed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that you "hoped for GRASS GIS to help me on the DWG to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GeoJSON conversion and editing". Which GRASS modules are you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using for this? If it is a regular GRASS module, then the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bet is to contact the developer who is maintaining that module 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to post your question on the GRASS dev list. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - GRASS 8.3.0 Apple ARM, 23/6/24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - GRASS 8.4dev Apple ARM, 23/8/14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both downloaded today from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmbarton.github.io/grass-mac/download .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both prompted for Rosetta during launch. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U subsequently did encounter the same unexpected Rosetta 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt from the Mac ARM version 0.21.1 of freecad , so who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows whether macOS Sonoma does trigger some unexpected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatibility. Other third party Apple Silicon, ARM releases 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run just fine though, eg. solvespace and everything published 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the App Store of course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-16, at 8:12 PM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Greg, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tell me which version you downloaded, when you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded it, and when it was compiled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Prof. Barton, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for maintaining GRASS GIS bundles for, indeed, the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world’s best computers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no previous GIS experience, but have come to look for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a way of converting positioning data, delivered to me in 3D 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DWG format from a land survey assignment, to IGES or STEP, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and GeoJSON for further use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had hoped for GRASS GIS to help me on the DWG to GeoJSON 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversion and editing side, but your most recent listed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable and development Apple ARM releases have both asked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Rosetta ton run. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I ask you to help me understand why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do run the latest MacOS Sonoma Beta, I see no reason how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or why this should affect Rosetta requirement however.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor Hintner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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