Gregor, 

I now had the opportunity to test on macOS 14 RC and I can confirm this issue. 
The problem seems related somehow to being initialised by a script.

I __did___ manage to start GRASS via Terminal:


1. Run `/Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh`

2. System will complain…

3. Go to 'System Settings > Privacy & Security > Security'

4. In the settings I enabled GRASS to be allowed

5. From now on `/Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh` will work


This is only a workaround, I will look into how this can be solved properly. 
Maybe we have to make a binary that does the job the script now does (that used 
to be the case some time ago). We should also invest some time in creating a 
code signed app as well.


Nicklas



> On 22 Sep 2023, at 11:01, Nicklas Larsson via grass-dev 
> <grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
> 
> Gregor, thanks very much for the info! At least it ruled some things out, but 
> I have still no idea what is causing this and it’s very difficult do the 
> needed poking around without a similar setup (macOS 14 without Rosetta 
> installed). I’ll have to ponder on this, if this really is caused by some 
> change by macOS 14, a solution must be found sooner rather than later.
> 
> An alternative way to install GRASS with native architecture for ARM is with 
> MacPorts [1]. It does, however, involve some Terminal-batics! If you are in 
> need for other GIS software like QGIS in particular, MacPorts is currently, 
> in my experience, a most solid solution with available GRASS plugin (as there 
> is no native official QGIS.app bundle for ARM).
> 
> To be continued…
> 
> Cheers,
> Nicklas
> 
> [1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Compiling_on_macOS_using_MacPorts
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2023, at 16:47, Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Niklas, 
>> 
>> 
>> please find my answers below: 
>> 
>>> `file /usr/bin/osascript` 
>> 
>> evidently still a universal binary, see this screenshot
>> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.13.56?PM.png>
>> 
>>> `osascript -i`
>> 
>> worked with no noticeable issues
>> 
>>> /Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh
>> 
>> produced the unverified developer warning as expected. Logically I could and 
>> should probably override this, but with 10 years since my last time coding, 
>> and having never learned the basics of UNIX, I would prefer to follow the 
>> strictest Apple security guidelines, or sometimes perhaps theater, when 
>> possible.
>> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.21.07?PM.png>
>> 
>>> `sw_vers -productVersion`
>> 14.0
>> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.33.25?PM.png>
>> 
>>> file /usr/bin/sw_vers
>> universal binary
>> <Screenshot 2023-09-20 at 4.31.23?PM.png>
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> Gregor
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2023-09-20, at 9:52 AM, Nicklas Larsson <n_lars...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gregor,
>>> 
>>> Browsing the content of both GRASS.app and the FreeCAD.app, they seem 
>>> correctly to have been built for arm machines. Both are based on conda 
>>> dependencies and both are initiated by shell script.
>>> 
>>> The shell script initialising GRASS involves the use of 
>>> '/usr/bin/osascript', which on macOS 12 is a universal binary. Perhaps 
>>> something did change with this command, please test the following:
>>> 
>>> `file /usr/bin/osascript` 
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> `osascript -i`
>>> 
>>> (which should enter interactive mode, you may exit with Ctrl-C).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You could also try start GRASS manually from Terminal:
>>> 
>>> `/Applications/GRASS-8.3.app/Contents/MacOS/Grass.sh`
>>> 
>>> (That step may, however, be prevented because of the app being unsigned).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For control, the FreeCAD shell script contains the following command:
>>> 
>>> `sw_vers -productVersion`
>>> 
>>> Could you try that? ’sw_vers' is also a universal binary on macOS 12. What 
>>> will the following give:
>>> 
>>> `file /usr/bin/sw_vers`
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Nicklas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Sep 2023, at 20:54, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've been corresponding with this GRASS user about how the software works 
>>>> with the new Apple ARM processors. Nicklas and I have compiled GRASS for 
>>>> ARM processors successfully. These are posted on the GRASS for Mac site 
>>>> (https://cmbarton.github.io/grass-mac/). When Gregor tries to launch GRASS 
>>>> under the new MacOS 14 (Sonoma) he gets a notice that Rosetta (Intel 
>>>> processor emulator) is needed. They launch on my ARM MacBook Pro with no 
>>>> notice, but I am not using Sonoma yet. 
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions about what might be triggering this 
>>>> notice at launch time? AFAIK, initialization only calls the following:
>>>> 1. shell launch script
>>>> 2. wxPython
>>>> 3. Python
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any other module or dependency that gets called at initial launch 
>>>> (no maps displayed)? 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>>> _____________________________
>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>> Arizona State University
>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>> USA
>>>> 
>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>> 
>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: GRASS GIS for Apple Silicon Macs
>>>>> Date: September 18, 2023 at 11:34:02 AM MST
>>>>> To: Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately I suspect we have had another miscommunication. 
>>>>> Let me list the specific steps that lead to the Rosetta prompt: 
>>>>> - Download GRASS 8.3.0 Apple ARM or GRASS 8.4dev from your webpage
>>>>> - mount either downloaded Diskimage
>>>>> - copy the GRASS application file from the mounted DMG to the 
>>>>> Applications folder
>>>>> - double click and launch the GRASS application
>>>>> - macOS shows a prompt to install Rosetta to continue
>>>>> 
>>>>> Obviously the prompt only appears when actually launching GRASS, the 
>>>>> launch just never progresses past it, and no console or GUI can appear.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To my eyes the OS behavior seems credible in this case, though I 
>>>>> obviously have no insights beyond the regular UI level.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could you send me an email contact to the GRASS dev list. I frankly never 
>>>>> understood how these lists work, I assume some kind of e-mail chain, but 
>>>>> I noticed no actual e-mail addresses on the main GRASS webpage, only on 
>>>>> your Mac distribution site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> Gregor
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 8:20 PM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Gregor, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I lean toward this being a bug in the beta at the moment. The reason is 
>>>>>> that installing GRASS should not raise a Rosetta request, at least until 
>>>>>> you run GRASS. This is because GRASS is organized as a set of 
>>>>>> independent modules, overlayed with an optional GUI. Running GRASS 
>>>>>> invokes a shell script (that should not require Rosestta, since it 
>>>>>> launches an ARM terminal) and than the GUI in Python 3 and wxPython. But 
>>>>>> these should also be ARM compatible. It is possible that one or more of 
>>>>>> the >300 individual modules or dependencies require Rosetta. But these 
>>>>>> should not call Rosetta until they are launched. Also, they are mostly 
>>>>>> in C and Python, with some C++ code--all of which was compiled under ARM 
>>>>>> tools. You might post this question to the GRASS dev list. It is hard to 
>>>>>> say what is causing this message to appear in your beta when nothing is 
>>>>>> launched. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>> USA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Gregor Hintner <gregorhint...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Understood! 
>>>>>>> If possible, and if you deem it worth it, I would kindly ask you to 
>>>>>>> eventually address this presumed issue. 
>>>>>>> Apple Silicon Mac users like myself will probably avoid to install the 
>>>>>>> Rosetta framework also in the future, as more and more apps get native 
>>>>>>> releases. 
>>>>>>> Obviously, as you offer your work voluntarily and for free, I have no 
>>>>>>> way to make demands, I simply submit the suggestion for your 
>>>>>>> consideration. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Furthermore I would truly hope for someone to develop a lightweight 
>>>>>>> iPadOS map authoring app in the future, as foremost the interface, 
>>>>>>> paired with Apple Pencil, just fits graphics and geometry oriented work 
>>>>>>> very naturally, and I personally see the entire system architecture as 
>>>>>>> much more pleasant and intuitive. Lastly I would really hope that land 
>>>>>>> survey work can escape the ruthless grip of proprietary software 
>>>>>>> platforms like the Autodesk apps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 4:19 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for the information. This is helpful. It is possible that a 
>>>>>>>> dependency somewhere in the app needs Rosetta. However, the app is 
>>>>>>>> compiled with the ARM SDK and an ARM build environment. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I use an M2 MacBook Air purchased from Apple.com, running Sonoma 
>>>>>>>>> Beta. 
>>>>>>>>> The machine shipped with Rosetta excluded from the macOS installation 
>>>>>>>>> as standard. 
>>>>>>>>> For that reason launching any Intel app will show me a prompt to 
>>>>>>>>> first download and install Rosetta, with a GB amount noted, between 
>>>>>>>>> 5-10 GB if I remember correctly.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Your GRASS Apple ARM binaries both show that same Rosetta 
>>>>>>>>> installation prompt upon launch, with no other way to proceed. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In comparison, most other Apple Silicon labelled app binaries I 
>>>>>>>>> tried, eg. Solvespace, run with no Rosetta prompt and requirement, as 
>>>>>>>>> expected. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, as mentioned before, a second Apple Silicon labelled app 
>>>>>>>>> binary, FreeCAD, also causes the Rosetta prompt on my system, making 
>>>>>>>>> the possibility of a Sonoma Beta bug a bit more likely. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apple, AFAIK, have already reached the RC phase of the Beta period 
>>>>>>>>> though, and I have encountered this issue with no other apps than 
>>>>>>>>> these two.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I found this article picturing the Rosetta 2 install prompt I 
>>>>>>>>> mention, proving the veracity of my account, in addition to all but 
>>>>>>>>> confirming the suspected difficulty to remove it after installation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> GH
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 3:28 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  Mac ARM does not require Rosetta. I am using it on my MacBook Pro 
>>>>>>>>>> 2023 without Rosetta. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by keeping your system free of Rosetta or 
>>>>>>>>>> changes in your system installation. I'm running MacOS 13.5.1. 
>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK, there is no Mac OS installation option to include or not 
>>>>>>>>>> include Rosetta. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> GRASS makes no changes to the OS. All dependencies are within the 
>>>>>>>>>> app. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological 
>>>>>>>>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:24 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no practical way to run GRASS since the Mac ARM version 
>>>>>>>>>>> requires Rosetta. I want to keep my system free of Rosetta, or any 
>>>>>>>>>>> irreversible changes it might make in my system installation. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In order to run GRASS I would need an actual Apple Silicon native 
>>>>>>>>>>> binary.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope I read the question correctly this time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 3:13 AM, Michael Barton <michael.bar...@asu.edu> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  You misunderstand my question. Did you try to import a DWG into 
>>>>>>>>>>>> GRASS? If so, what steps did you go through and what was the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> output in the console?  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MIchael 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hours of online research, this stackoverflow post mentioning GDAL 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as at least one possible DWG GeoJSON bridge, and finding GRASS as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the only actively maintained Mac compatible GIS tools.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find it puzzling that AutoDesk themselves offer almost no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> export format choices for AutoCAD for Mac, see this support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> article, and no JSON export for somewhat more capable Windows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 2:16 AM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Gregor,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am asking how you are trying to import DWG files in GRASS? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What steps dod you go through? You must have done something in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to get the behavior you are asking about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2023, at 4:50 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no previous experience with GRASS, I can specify no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific modules. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I simply wanted to find an Apple Silicon compatible map 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authoring tool that allowed me to, import, view and edit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property line geometry from a DWG file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might have misjudged the feature scope of GRASS for that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purpose. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In regard to listing a release as “Apple ARM”, I would expect 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to only contain fully ARM native code, and no x86 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> architecture dependencies. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really see no room for negotiation or interpretation here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-18, at 1:27 AM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  These are up to date. The ARM apps are set up to not require 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rosetta for normal GRASS modules. However, whether or not a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of code will run natively with Apple Silicon depends on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how that code was developed and its dependencies. I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compiling the normal GRASS source code, however it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that you "hoped for GRASS GIS to help me on the DWG to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GeoJSON conversion and editing". Which GRASS modules are you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using for this? If it is a regular GRASS module, then the best 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bet is to contact the developer who is maintaining that module 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to post your question on the GRASS dev list. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - GRASS 8.3.0 Apple ARM, 23/6/24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - GRASS 8.4dev Apple ARM, 23/8/14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both downloaded today from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cmbarton.github.io/grass-mac/download .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both prompted for Rosetta during launch. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U subsequently did encounter the same unexpected Rosetta 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt from the Mac ARM version 0.21.1 of freecad , so who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows whether macOS Sonoma does trigger some unexpected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatibility. Other third party Apple Silicon, ARM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> releases run just fine though, eg. solvespace and everything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> published on the App Store of course. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-09-16, at 8:12 PM, Michael Barton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.bar...@asu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Greg, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tell me which version you downloaded, when you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded it, and when it was compiled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C. Michael Barton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://scas.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona State University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecological Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Gregor Hintner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gregorhint...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Prof. Barton, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for maintaining GRASS GIS bundles for, indeed, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world’s best computers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no previous GIS experience, but have come to look 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a way of converting positioning data, delivered to me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 3D DWG format from a land survey assignment, to IGES or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STEP, and GeoJSON for further use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had hoped for GRASS GIS to help me on the DWG to GeoJSON 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversion and editing side, but your most recent listed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable and development Apple ARM releases have both asked 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Rosetta ton run. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May I ask you to help me understand why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do run the latest MacOS Sonoma Beta, I see no reason how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or why this should affect Rosetta requirement however.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gregor Hintner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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