and btw dilli doorast (delhi is still far away for people from Chengara)
On 30/03/2008, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree we need to discuss Poland, Gujarat, Tibet, Palestine et al to > understand politics. But what I do not understand is the backlash on a group > of landless dalits and adivasis demanding land in Kerala and "guilt by > association" that is being thrown at them > What I am yet to understand is how CIA is involved > What I am yet to understand is how is the character of the people on the > Night Vigil determined by women smoking or their sexuality and that > determining the nature of the struggle at Chengara > Wht I am yet to understand is the guilt of Delhi Forum in applying for > funds to AID and how that reverberates on Chengara > What I am yet to understand is the defamatory spiel > Hope you could help me make the connections > > > On 30/03/2008, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > dear bobby > > my problem still exists. U CANNOT TALK ABOUT GUJARAT OR PALESTINE WHEN > > WE ARE DISCUSSING ABOUT CHENGARA AND THE NIGHT VIGIL. this was the > > basic attitude of people like dilipraj and the abusive mail sender > > etc. their mental level is at par with sreenivasan of sandesam. > > polandine kurichu samsaarikkaruthu. > > regards > > gp.ramachandran > > > > On 3/30/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and one more point - moderators correct me if I am wrong - greenyouth > > does > > > not work on exclusivity like the fourth estate critique. > > > Binu Thomas would be welcome to make his posts here by acquiring > > membership > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30/03/2008, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear GPR > > > > Whats the point? > > > > How does a delhi based NGO's funding proposal make the Chengara > > struggle > > > CIA backed. This mail sounds shrill and defamatory. Nothing better or > > worse > > > than the threatening mail you got. > > > > Instead of discussing the merits of the Chengara struggle, we are > > > discussing possiblities of external funding. > > > > A metaphor I hope that you might understand - what deshabhimani and > > this > > > kind of mails do is to put the rape victim on the dock and question > > her > > > character - as if anyone deserves to be raped. > > > > Long live the questions that Chengara has thrown open > > > > I would like it if you would respomd this time > > > > In solidarity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30/03/2008, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > this is mail posted to me since binu thomas has not got a > > membership > > > > > in the google groups. please read it. > > > > > G P Ramachandran > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > From: binu thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: Mar 29, 2008 2:29 AM > > > > > Subject: Delhi is not far away from chengara!!! > > > > > To: Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Delhi is not far away from chengara!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anivar says > > > > > > > > > > It is a grant proposal by an organization in Delhi > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I agreed > > > > > > > > > > And there is the pulp > > > > > > > > > > This delhi based organization's operation office is here in > > thiruvalla > > > > > > > > > > They collects the forgine aids via thiruvalla bank!! ( see its > > FCRA > > > details) > > > > > > > > > > And here its email id changes to DYNAMIC ACTION- THE HEAVY FUNDED > > > > > ACTION GROUP!!! > > > > > > > > > > Delhi based organization's coordinator visited chengara with his > > > > > group and arranged to film the movement the update collective the > > > > > magazine brought out by this Delhi based organization published > > appeal > > > > > seeking financial support for chengara struggle > > > > > > > > > > And not the part –u have to send doncations to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dynamic action and Programme for social action –both are > > the parental > > > > > bodies of this delhi based funding child!!!! So money is going to > > > > > same pocket > > > > > > > > > > Along with grant proposals this film is circulating among many > > donor > > > > > agencies. 'some forums' other that the poor people shouting > > slogans in > > > > > chengara battle land is gaining out of it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more than of these please note the working committee members of DF > > > > > > > > > > first name in Working Committee is > > > > > > > > > > Fr. Thomas Kocherry (World Forum of Fisher Peoples & > > > > > > > > > > Convener, Peoples' Political Front / NAPM, India) > > > > > > > > > > Most of us know who is this ACHAN > > > > > > > > > > If anyone need to know more about him > > > > > > > > > > Please read the following news link > > > > > It was posted in greenyouth list none other than ANIVAR > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > From: Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 12:19 PM > > > > > Subject: <<green youth>> Fwd: NGOs cross swords over tsunami > > relief > > > dollars > > > > > To: [email protected], > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NGOs cross swords over tsunami relief > > dollars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arun Jayan/ Thiruvananthapuram > > > > > the pioneer > > > > > 17.12.2005 > > > > > > > > > > http://dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=KOCHI&file_name=KOCHI1%2Etxt&counter_img=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infighting among non-governmental oraganisations is becoming > > murkier. > > > > > Be it in the Adivasi community or among fishermen, or any other > > areas, > > > > > such as ecology, culture, herbs, rustic know-how or AIDS, the NGOs > > of > > > > > late are engaged in a pitched battle as they attach more > > importance to > > > > > the inflow of dollars and euros than to the cause they are > > projecting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Literate Kerala had witnessed many such > > feuds > > > > > that led to splitting NGO groups, such as Mithra Niketan, > > Samskriti, > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even priests and nuns seem to be after big > > > > > money as is evident from the latest bickering in the World Forum > > of > > > > > Fisher Peoples. Fr Thomas Kochery, known as the champion of the > > > > > fisherfolks' cause, is very much involved in this forum as a > > special > > > > > invitee. The organisation is on the verge of a spilt if the > > > > > allegations and counter-allegations coming from within the WFFP, > > > > > Kerala chapter, are anything to go by. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rift has reached such serious dimensions > > > > > that WFFP secretary Sr Cecily Plathottam, is under police > > protection. > > > > > Addressing newsmen in Thiruvananthapuram, Sr Cecily, who was > > > > > accompanied by two women cops, accused Fr Kochery of embezzling > > > > > tsunami funds. She also says her life is under threat ever since > > she > > > > > questioned his way of spending funds received for the welfare of > > the > > > > > fisherfolk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She alleged that Fr Kochery had received > > more > > > > > than Rs 100 crore from various foreign funding agencies for the > > > > > rehabilitation of tsunami-affected fishermen. "However, he is not > > > > > ready to clarify as to what he did with this money," she said. She > > > > > added that Mr Herman Kumara, general secretary of WFFP, was > > diverting > > > > > the money to his personal account under the direction of Thomas > > > > > Kochery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Madurai-based NGO Muhil and a > > > Redemptorist > > > > > community in Manavalakurichy in Kanyakumari and National > > Fishworkers' > > > > > Forum (NFF) are handling the fund but there are no specific > > records > > > > > for the money spent on the project. What I demand is that they > > should > > > > > clarify about the total money that was funded by foreign agencies > > and > > > > > how much had been spent and how it was spent," she said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She added that since she was speaking about > > > > > the misuse of money flowing into these NGOs, she was facing threat > > > > > from many corners. However, an action council formed in defence of > > Fr > > > > > Thomas Kochery, having its office at Manavalakurichy, said that Fr > > > > > Kochery widely publicised the needs of the tsunami-affected > > people, > > > > > giving details of the extent of damages, as it was known at that > > time, > > > > > and a rough estimate of the amount of money that might be needed > > for > > > > > the rehabilitation work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He did not send any project proposal to any > > > > > funding agency. In his appeal, he had given the addresses of some > > of > > > > > the NGOs and church organisations, both in India and Sri Lanka, > > who > > > > > had FCRA numbers and who were willing to receive funds and account > > for > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His intention in circulating the needs of > > the > > > > > time was not to collect funds himself, but to enthuse possible > > donors > > > > > to come forward and make their contribution to any agency or NGO > > who > > > > > had the facility to receive foreign funds and had the > > infrastructure > > > > > to do relief and rehabilitation work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further, they said that WFFP was an > > > > > international forum. Though Fr Thomas Kochery is acclaimed as a > > leader > > > > > of the fisher peoples all over the world, he is not the > > coordinator of > > > > > the WFFP as Sr Cecily mentions in the accusation, they added. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The WFFP bank account is in France and that > > > > > is controlled by a treasurer who is French, two coordinators, one > > a > > > > > New Zealander and the other a Senegalese, and the general > > secretary, > > > > > who is a Sri Lankan. Thus, Fr Kochery will not be able to state as > > to > > > > > what exactly was the effect of the appeal he made," the action > > > > > committee said in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fr Kochery, who was in Honk Kong, when > > > > > contacted by The Pioneer, was in full agreement with the action > > > > > council and clarified that people of goodwill would ignore the > > > > > malicious propaganda that some persons, for reasons known to > > > > > themselves, were going against him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, Kerala Matsya > > > Thozilali Fedaration > > > > > president T Peter said that he or his organisation had no role in > > the > > > > > controversies erupting over the misappropriation of tsunami fund > > and > > > > > that he wishes to keep off from the heated arguments made in this > > > > > regard. "KMTF is a political organisation working for the cause of > > > > > fisherfolk. We have not received any foreign money and we will not > > > > > accept any and as for the controversies regarding the tsunami > > fund, it > > > > > is their internal matter." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bobby Kunhu > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bobby Kunhu > > > > > > -- > > G P Ramachandran > > AKAM, PERIMBADARI PO > > MANNARKKAD, PALAKKAD DT > > KERALA, INDIA > > 04924 223990, 09447239544 > > > > > > -- > Bobby Kunhu -- Bobby Kunhu --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
